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[Kipsie]

I cant get the hang of cycling and I have a danio and a betta and the danios is sick and I dont know what to do and I cant get my nitrates down and the tank is ten gallon and my other danio died and that really scared me and then I was told that danios are bad for bettas and now I dont know what to do with my living injured danios and Im scared he'll die I love this danio, he's a sweetie.



Do I need to start cycleing over with a new filter cause I think I seriously messed up with cycling I feel so lost?

EDIT:

Im sorry Im totally notorious for editing posts at last minute but I dont have a gravel cleaner could that make my nitrates act weird and high?

 

[Ashley1991]

so your doing a fish in cycle?

what are your stats of now?

my nitrate in my tank is around 15-20 ppm by the end of the week in a fully cycled tank thats 10ppm from my tap water and the rest from the nitifying process

there should always be nitrate in your water so if you can find out what level it is at now someone can tell you if thats normal or not

ash

edit: by the way hi

 

[Wills]

Hi welcome to the forum, I would try and take back the danio and continue with the betta for now. The Danio will need to be in a group and your not able to accomodate that in this tank.

So once the danio is back in the shop with other danios he stands a good chance of being sold in a group and he will be able to live a proper schooling fish life then

Then in your tank as said you will be in a fish in cycle this means that you are using the fishes poo (the betta) to cycle the tank. During this time you need to do 50% water changes each day, that will make sure that the tank is safe for your betta to live in. This will take about 4-5 weeks to complete and at that point you could start thinking to add some tank mates.

Is this your 60 liter in the signature where it says fishless cycling? Have you been adding bottled ammonia while you have had fish in the tank?

Wills

 

[Ashley1991]

Hi welcome to the forum, I would try and take back the danio and continue with the betta for now. The Danio will need to be in a group and your not able to accomodate that in this tank.

So once the danio is back in the shop with other danios he stands a good chance of being sold in a group and he will be able to live a proper schooling fish life then

Then in your tank as said you will be in a fish in cycle this means that you are using the fishes poo (the betta) to cycle the tank. During this time you need to do 50% water changes each day, that will make sure that the tank is safe for your betta to live in. This will take about 4-5 weeks to complete and at that point you could start thinking to add some tank mates.

Is this your 60 liter in the signature where it says fishless cycling? Have you been adding bottled ammonia while you have had fish in the tank?

Wills

if you meen me no been doing it with no fish in its done now and has 1 female guppy and 1 fry (came with the female guppy) going to add a couple more females at some point she is close to dropping so will wait until after then

ash

edit: that nitrate reading i was on about was my 195 litre not the 60 litre the 195 liter has been going a few months

 

[Wills]

Hi welcome to the forum, I would try and take back the danio and continue with the betta for now. The Danio will need to be in a group and your not able to accomodate that in this tank.

So once the danio is back in the shop with other danios he stands a good chance of being sold in a group and he will be able to live a proper schooling fish life then

Then in your tank as said you will be in a fish in cycle this means that you are using the fishes poo (the betta) to cycle the tank. During this time you need to do 50% water changes each day, that will make sure that the tank is safe for your betta to live in. This will take about 4-5 weeks to complete and at that point you could start thinking to add some tank mates.

Is this your 60 liter in the signature where it says fishless cycling? Have you been adding bottled ammonia while you have had fish in the tank?

Wills

if you meen me no been doing it with no fish in its done now and has 1 female guppy and 1 fry (came with the female guppy) going to add a couple more females at some point she is close to dropping so will wait until after then

ash

edit: that nitrate reading i was on about was my 195 litre not the 60 litre the 195 liter has been going a few months

Hi no sorry was talking to Kipsie as her signature says fishless cycle in a 60 liter tank and just worried that she is adding ammonia to a fish tank with fish in.

Wills

 

[Ashley1991]

my bad i cant seem to see her sig at the min so i got confused sorry

ash

 

[Kipsie]

My internet cut off for a while.
Sorry!
Uhm, I ran out of dechlorinator so i'll run to the store to get some in a few hours.
Then i'll do the change, and tell you guys the specs, right?

 

[Kipsie]

My Nitrites are at 2
My nitrates are at 1.
My ph is at 7.8

But I just did the water change.
I changed the majority of my water down to two inches left of it.
Hows that possible?
My tank is 10 gallons

 

[Kipsie]

My Nitrites are at 2
My nitrates are at 1.
My ph is at 7.8

But I just did the water change.
I changed the majority of my water down to two inches left of it.
Hows that possible?
My tank is 10 gallons

 

[Assaye]

My Nitrites are at 2
My nitrates are at 1.
My ph is at 7.8

But I just did the water change.
I changed the majority of my water down to two inches left of it.
Hows that possible?
My tank is 10 gallons

What were they before you changed the water? If you had really high nitrites then if is very possible that your nitrites will still be high after a large water change.

Don't worry about why your water changes are not doing what you hope, don't worry about how long it is taking, don't worry about the nitrates. Focus on ammonia and nitrites. Just those for now. All you need to do is keep doing water changes until it gets to 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites. When that happens, take a break. Give it a few hours and re-test. If the ammonia or nitrites are high again, repeat. Once you get them under control you should be able to relax a bit. I can run small tanks with bettas and just do one large daily water change. I currently have a female in a hospital tank with no filter and she gets 100% water change every day and her water is perfect. You just need to get it under control and take it from there.

With regards to the danio - 10 gallons isn't big enough for him long term. You have a choice. Once your tank is under control you can add some more danios and pray you'll get a bigger really tank soon (ideally 20 gallons) or you can rehome him with someone who had a large school of danios. Keeping him alone and/or in a small tank is not fair on him. Danios are also a risk to bettas as they are known to bully and nip.

You didn't know any of this before you got the fish so don't feel bad. You just need to make some decisions now.

It is really hard work but worrying about how long it will take or how much work it is won't help your fish.

 

[Kipsie]

The last danio died.

Thats when my nitrates were reeeeaaaalllly high.
I found him stuck to my filter. All I have is my betta now.
My test strips dont test for ammonia. Back to the store for me.

 

[Ashley1991]

try to buy a liquid test kit not strips strips are quite inacurate compared to liquid tests

if you have the money a good test kit to get is http/www.charterhouse-aquatics.co.uk/catalog/api-freshwater-master-test-kit-p-1091.html

i dont know if that is the cheapest i did not look

ash

 

[Kipsie]

I saw that test kit (in usa) and it was about 28 us dollars.
Not bad, but I still have to save for it.
D=

 

[Assaye]

Ebay is your friend!

Nitrates can get to well over 50ppm for hardy fish. As long as your tap water isn't that high, regular water changes will keep your nitrates down. Nitrites are the real worry.

 

[Kipsie]

I meant to say my nitrites were really high, not the one with an A.

Heh, sorry.
Okay, so ebay is my friend but I lost the pin to my debit card.

Anywho Nitrites with an I are at 1 and I did like a 90% change.
I do a 75% change in a few hours, yes?

Nitrates with an A are almost undetectable.