I Am Still Waiting

[marwanshakhli]

Hi every body, This is my first post and I am new to bettas.

I am waiting fot my two bettas (male & female) to Spawn!
After my male builded the bubble nest, which i waited for him to that for more than 24 hours, I released the female into his tank, so the male started to chase the female around and get excited, now i waited almost 7 hours but they still didn't spawn yet!!

When do you guys think that they will spawn? and how do I know that they fished spawning?










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[cation]

Firstly, welcome to the board. Bettas are addictive and wonderful. I hope you learn lots and have a great time with this forum!

Secondly, if you are indeed new to bettas, I would highly recommend that you seperate your fish and do lots of research before attempting to breed them. If you already have, ignore the next comment or two. When you breed, you can easily end up with 200-300 fish from one spawn. If half of these are males, that's a big commitment, considering they each need to be jarred seperately. The water changes are very, very time consuming. Feeding the little suckers can be expensive. So can jarring them, and heating/conditioning your water. You must be prepared for the fact that one or both of the fish in your breeding pair may be injured, or possibly killed.

I recommend checking out the pinned topics on breeding - they are very detailed and helpful!

Good luck.


Sorry - here's a link to a great breeding rundown by our own Wuv: http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=37944

 

[marwanshakhli]

Firstly, welcome to the board. Bettas are addictive and wonderful. I hope you learn lots and have a great time with this forum!

Secondly, if you are indeed new to bettas, I would highly recommend that you seperate your fish and do lots of research before attempting to breed them. If you already have, ignore the next comment or two. When you breed, you can easily end up with 200-300 fish from one spawn. If half of these are males, that's a big commitment, considering they each need to be jarred seperately. The water changes are very, very time consuming. Feeding the little suckers can be expensive. So can jarring them, and heating/conditioning your water. You must be prepared for the fact that one or both of the fish in your breeding pair may be injured, or possibly killed.

I recommend checking out the pinned topics on breeding - they are very detailed and helpful!

Good luck.


Sorry - here's a link to a great breeding rundown by our own Wuv: http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=37944

Thankyou for Advise, but I have actually done lots of reaserch about bettas, and I know whats the effects and I think I am ready to breed my bettas, so can anyone answer my questions please?

 

[cation]

Have you conditioned your bettas? How old are your bettas? Did you vase the female in the spawn tank before just letting her out? What is your spawning setup? Without knowing all of these things, it is not possible to tell how long it might take. Even if we do know those things, nobody but the fish can give you a definitive answer! Some pairs spawn right away, some will never spawn.

As for how you can tell, you will see many eggs in the bubblenest. It's pretty simple. They are quite small, but because there are usually hundreds, you can see them in most cases. They are opaque.

 

[marwanshakhli]

Have you conditioned your bettas? How old are your bettas? Did you vase the female in the spawn tank before just letting her out? What is your spawning setup? Without knowing all of these things, it is not possible to tell how long it might take. Even if we do know those things, nobody but the fish can give you a definitive answer! Some pairs spawn right away, some will never spawn.

As for how you can tell, you will see many eggs in the bubblenest. It's pretty simple. They are quite small, but because there are usually hundreds, you can see them in most cases. They are opaque.

Alright, thankyou for information, I will wait and see the result, I will update my post if anything happens.

 

[cation]

If you answer the questions in my last post, I can at least ballpark it for you...

 

[marwanshakhli]

If you answer the questions in my last post, I can at least ballpark it for you...

Well, first both of my Bettas are in excellent condition, I am not sure how ol are they but i think they are almost 1 year old or maybe more, and I did vase the female in the spawn tank before just letting her out.


Looking forward for your answers.

 

[cation]

Conditioning your fish for breeding means feeding high quality live and frozen foods for at least a week or two before trying to spawn. This allows the female to fatten up with high quality eggs, and allows the male to prepare for the first days after spawning, when he may not eat. A year old is getting a little old for breeding, although I've bred male bettas older then that, they just have passed their peak breeding age.

How long did you leave the female in the vase? Did she have breeding bars when you released her? What is your breeding set-up? (Size, temp, pH)

 

[ral]

Good to see you up and around again cation

I leave my spawning pairs together for 48 hours before removing the female. I do use fairly large 20"-24" long spawning tanks with at least two hiding places for the female. My females don't get all beat up in the larger spawning tanks.

 

[marwanshakhli]

Conditioning your fish for breeding means feeding high quality live and frozen foods for at least a week or two before trying to spawn. This allows the female to fatten up with high quality eggs, and allows the male to prepare for the first days after spawning, when he may not eat. A year old is getting a little old for breeding, although I've bred male bettas older then that, they just have passed their peak breeding age.

How long did you leave the female in the vase? Did she have breeding bars when you released her? What is your breeding set-up? (Size, temp, pH)

Well, I have been feeding them live & frozen worms, especially Bloodworms, for along time before i thought of breeding them, and with age I am not sure exactly, but I had them for almost a month and a half, and I think the owner had them for 3 months, and i said 1 year, i just guessed and I was wrong.

I've put the female in the vase for around 27 hours, and now i put her back in the vase, because i think she's not ready yet, because she's not realy fat, I don't think she have made eggs that much, so now shes back in the vase, I will wait another 24 hours.

My tank is around 10g, the temp is 25 and the pH is fine.

 

[Durbkat]

You need a much longer tank like a long 20 gallon tank with several caves and silk plants for the male and female to hide in if they want to take a break from each other and you also need like half a styrofoam cup over the bubble nest to give protection to the nest. Also you shouldn't have a filter running while they are breeding and the eggs are still in the nest and don't forget to remove the female once they spawn. Here is a link on all the stuff you should have in case you don't have it yet. http/www.bettatalk.com/spawning_setup.htm

 

[supersixone]

You need a much longer tank like a long 20 gallon tank with several caves and silk plants for the male and female to hide in if they want to take a break from each other

have you actually bred, durbkat? most people use a 10 gallon, not a 20 gallon, for spawning. others prefer smaller tanks still. my latest spawn was conducted in a 7 gallon and both mother and father have not a scratch or nip on them. my spawn previous to that was done in a 3 gallon and the female had one small nip. (the fry were moved to a larger tank as soon as they were free swimming)

 

[Joby]

Your temp is a bit low at 25 I prefer to go to 27-28 for spawning. Make sure you have some saran wrap or such over the top of the tank as this makes it nice and humid and helps to stop the male's bubblenest from popping and is also useful later on when the fry begin to take breaths

 

[Durbkat]

You need a much longer tank like a long 20 gallon tank with several caves and silk plants for the male and female to hide in if they want to take a break from each other

have you actually bred, durbkat? most people use a 10 gallon, not a 20 gallon, for spawning. others prefer smaller tanks still. my latest spawn was conducted in a 7 gallon and both mother and father have not a scratch or nip on them. my spawn previous to that was done in a 3 gallon and the female had one small nip. (the fry were moved to a larger tank as soon as they were free swimming)

Well Ral said that he uses long tanks like a long 20g and he had success with no nips or anything So I thought it would be better if they have more room length wise to get away from each other. Sorry just trying to be helpful by going by with what you guys said.

 

[ral]

I have used both a 24" long 15G and a 17" long 10G for spawning tanks. In both cases, the females came out with minimal damage. Previously, I was using smaller 5G tanks for spawning. Females (and males too seemed to be in pretty bad shape after).

The 10G will probably become my standard sized spawning tank. Am getting a few more.

One reason that I think I find larger tanks useful is that I don't micro manage my spawns. Mom stays in for 48 hours, dad for 96 hours... I don't check for eggs or watch them wrap.... so I need room for the female to hide when their done.

But have seen people spanw betta's in small 12x6x8 tanks!!! (2.5G)... though the number of fry produced tended to be small.