How's This Sound?

[BigC]

Hi,
There may be an issue with the Flame Angel and the corals.
As Flames are notorious for Coral picking.
I have a small (Dwarf sp.) angelfish which is more suited to a reef setting,
See my Nano thread for details.
Also I would be inclined to up you suggested lighting a little
Regards
BigC

 

[Truck]

hi jenclibee

a note on the blenny; you would need to wait a year before adding him/her as they are dragonets and require a regular supply of copepods, so i would leave a space in your tank for one, then a month before you plan on getting one get a pod culture going. otherwise he will starve and die

i also agree about the flame angel, i dont think it would be a wise move other wise youll be saying good bye to most softies and some LPS corals.

 

[JenCliBee]

Hi,
There may be an issue with the Flame Angel and the corals.
As Flames are notorious for Coral picking.
I have a small (Dwarf sp.) angelfish which is more suited to a reef setting,
See my Nano thread for details.
Also I would be inclined to up you suggested lighting a little
Regards
BigC

cheers for the reply m8, think the flame angel mite be a miss now after everyones reply lol.

The lighting was just becasue it was easier for me with the way my house is situated and my cats getting into an open top tank. I may be able to get hold of a 150watt halide which im presuming would be much better? but i will have 2 have a piece of glass cut to go around the top of the tank just so my cats dont get a little curious lol. Im presuming becasue its 150watt then a piece of glass isnt really gonna be a problem with light getting to the corals etc etc?

hi jenclibee

a note on the blenny; you would need to wait a year before adding him/her as they are dragonets and require a regular supply of copepods, so i would leave a space in your tank for one, then a month before you plan on getting one get a pod culture going. otherwise he will starve and die

i also agree about the flame angel, i dont think it would be a wise move other wise youll be saying good bye to most softies and some LPS corals.

Cheers for the heads up truck its duely noted and if its gonna be better and safer for the well been of the fish then i will wait before adding


also any ideas or comments about tank size in relation to the fuzzy dwarf lion fish i mention in a previous post?

thankyou
jen

 

[seffieuk]

Right just thought before i do try anythink i would see how my plans sound to the experts in the field lol


TANK: 120ltr tank

LIVE ROCK: around 20-25 kg..... about 1-2 inch of live sand (already from an established tank)

Too much live rock can create problems - get less as remember corals will often come on lr

FILTRATION: external probably either tetratec ex600/ex700/ex1200.... filled with live rubble (think thats wot people call it lol)

You don't need an external, so save a bit of dosh there .....

powerheads.... korilia(sp) or similar... thinking of equivilant 3000ltr flow rate

yep. I have the K2 in my 128 ltr

LIGHTING: 2x T5 tubes (standard juwel lighting).... will only keep soft corals

Try and get the reflectors

Now to the fish:

2x black clowns lovely choice, try and get tank bred juvies ....
maybe maroon clowns nope, get too big and aggressive
2x bajii(sp) cardinals oh so boring
1x flame angel (gonna be my fave) little monkey which may be a little too big and may nip your corals
1x starfish (maybe blue just becasue i like them) nope, not suitable
2 yellow goby's yellow watchman, lovely - not sure on two though
1 blenny thingy (not sure what types would be compatible yet) you would need to do your homework well on this one

CUC.... shrimp, snails... (find crabs scary so no crabs...dont ask lol ) and hermit crabs

so how does this sound ? fish list is basically the list that will stay in the tank. I doubt much more would be added.


thank in advance for your help

jen

It's great fun planning isn't it - enjoy every minute

Seffie x

 

[Trod]

Personally, I think 120l is at the very limit for a fuzzy dwarf lionfish, it would grow to around 7" and ideally need over 30g.
It would also limit what else you could have, as any other fish would have to be big enough not to fit in its mouth.

It can be done, but very risky and I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[kj23502]

I've been researching the yellow watchman gobies as I want a pistol shrimp/goby pair. It's my understanding from this research that they get territorial and if you get two of the same sex in small tank they'll fight. However, if you get a pair then it will be fine.

Some angels to possibly look at would be perhaps some of these: There are some beautiful pictures on this website
http/www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/centropyge/

Just remember that ANY species can eat your corals. One day you'll have a happy healthy coral population then you can literally wake up the next moring to find things decimated or really ticked off.

I'm nixing the angel idea from my list due to the possibility of nipping. I don't want to have to tear down rock work to try to catch the SOB after its done the act.


http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=268597
Read over these beginner fish.

 

[JenCliBee]

Thankyou all for your replies all taken in and all very much apprieciated

Right then from what everybody has said heres the list lol

10-15kg of live rock

still going with the external filter more for extra flow but will still have live rubble in and floss just to polish water

looking around i think a koralia 3 is going to be sufficient with the external i think it will give me roughly 40x turnover

lighting ive decided to go for interpets T5 twin compacts which gives me i think 110 watts of light and then blue l.e.d's for night time viewing

FISH...
2 x black clowns..... my nephew has already got me some and holding them for me
2 x banjii(sp) cardinals
shrimp, snails but still no crabs (still not liking them lol)

but now im stuck for a center piece fish ... i want somethink that wont outgrow the tank, somethink colourful and somethink that is least likely to eat coral but i still would like some sort of angel.... any idea's lol?

jen

 

[Jimyfloyd]

I'm sure the more knowledgable on here will correct me but I think your external should just have teh rubble in and nothign else and never open it...

Otherwise it sounds good tome and similar to what i hope mine will get to. I've got 20kg in my 125l and i think it might be a little too much but still a good amount of space (even with the skimmer pump in the tank!)

 

[kj23502]

floss is fine to add in the external. Some people put other things in there too such as carbon or phosphate binding media It has to be opened to be cleaned or it'll become a nitrate trap.

Check out the Pseudochromis.

http/www.liveaquaria.com/product/aquariu...=1&count=24

 

[JenCliBee]

floss is fine to add in the external. Some people put other things in there too such as carbon or phosphate binding media It has to be opened to be cleaned or it'll become a nitrate trap.

Check out the Pseudochromis.

[URL="http/www.liveaquaria.com/product/aquariu...=1&count=24"]http/www.liveaquaria.com/product/aquariu...=1&count=24[/URL]

Cheers for the link m8, i do like the Springeri Pseudochromis but i was trying to find somethink a little heavier bodied (if that makes sense lol) hence the angels but i think there is always gonna be a problem with the angels eating corals.

 

[ben1987]

carinals are nice looks buy very boring. They just dont seem to swim around much at all, they just hover there

 

[JenCliBee]

carinals are nice looks buy very boring. They just dont seem to swim around much at all, they just hover there

LOL, i actually quite like them , and to be honest they seem quite easy to get hold of. Any other suggestions are more than welcome as a replacement

 

[ben1987]

flasher wrasse, dwarf angel, royal gramma, blenny

 

[JenCliBee]

flasher wrasse, dwarf angel, royal gramma, blenny

Flasher wrasse is actually quite nice, dwarf angel? i presume flame angels comes under that catagory and told most if not all angels will nibble/eat coral, i also been told 2 wait a while for the blenny due it been better with an established tank becasue of feeding. Royal gramma isnt bad tho

Thanks for the suggestions m8

 

[ben1987]

No angel is 100% reef safe, but some are more so than others. Flame angels are one of the worst for coral munching. But keeping the angel well fed and with a supply of veggies for it to graze on decreases the chance of it eating corals a lot. I kept a dwarf for 4 months or so. I used to feed my tank everyday The angel was fine, then i moved to every other to lower phosphates a bit and the angel started to munch.

The pic in my sig is a flasher wrasse btw