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MogoMadness
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That's a good idea Durbkat.
TheLastBetta, knowing the actual size will help determine your stocking density and any issues that may be related to that. While your current stocklist would make for a very under stocked 150 gallon, it would also make for an overstocked 10 gallon. So yes, size does matter.
It just doesn't seem to fit. You also said that the tank is more length than height or width, so assuming all six sides are the same length at 9.5", the tank would need to be approximately 12 feet in height if it were to be a 150 gallon hex.
I'm sure everyone here wants to help you figure out what happened to your fish, but without knowing the details of the tank, it will be pretty hard. A good first step would be to provide water parameters, filtration, maintenance schedule etc.
TheLastBetta, knowing the actual size will help determine your stocking density and any issues that may be related to that. While your current stocklist would make for a very under stocked 150 gallon, it would also make for an overstocked 10 gallon. So yes, size does matter.
It just doesn't seem to fit. You also said that the tank is more length than height or width, so assuming all six sides are the same length at 9.5", the tank would need to be approximately 12 feet in height if it were to be a 150 gallon hex.
I'm sure everyone here wants to help you figure out what happened to your fish, but without knowing the details of the tank, it will be pretty hard. A good first step would be to provide water parameters, filtration, maintenance schedule etc.
thelastbetta
Fishaholic
Sure, one sec.
thelastbetta
Fishaholic
I can't get the whole tank in the shot..
Note that this is the tank they're normally in, the one the picture was taken in was the tank they're put into when I have to clean this one (which is a pain the the butt!). Erm.. the filter is a Hagen AquaClear.Temperature: 80°F
pH: 0.0
Ammonia: 0.0
Nitrite: 0.0
Bloo
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OK I'm sorry but I'm still confused - more so than before. I thought you said it was a hex and that the one side was 9.5" ? The pic here looks nothing like that description.
The Flying Foxes are on blue gravel and the tank you just showed us has black gravel. It's just not the same tank
The Flying Foxes are on blue gravel and the tank you just showed us has black gravel. It's just not the same tank
I can't get the whole tank in the shot..
Temperature: 80°F
pH: 0.0
Ammonia: 0.0
Nitrite: 0.0
bloo he moved the fish into the tank that you saw the blue gravel in. The one above is the tank they were moved from, though i dont understand why they were moved there for the time you were away?
Bloo
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Sorry I didn't see the bit below the picture.OMG you don't get it? I can't believe it.He said that he moved them into the hex tank to clean the 150G and they died in the hex tank.....get it now?
But that explains it.
My guess is, they went into differing water conditions and couldn't take being in a very small tank for a weekend (or was it longer than that ?) when they are used to living in a 150 gallon. How established was the hex tank then and what else was in the hex tank. Are those stats of the hex tank or the 150 gallon ?
How many gallons was the hex tank ? If you moved all 10 danios and the FF's into a small tank, that might very well have been the reason for their death I'm afraid.
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This is still a little confusing, but the pieces are starting to fit together.
I am also questioning the same thing as black angel, why were the fish removed from the 150? When you say "cleaning", exactly what do you mean by this? Normally fish don't need to be removed from their tank for routine maintenance.
Since the fish died in the hex tank, this is the tank we should be discussing. Was the hex cycled before the fish were relocated, how about filtration, did you move the filter from the 150 to the hex?
You also didn't list nitrate, or anything about your routine water changes. Did you maybe place the fish in the hex with all new water without making sure KH, GH and pH were all a close match?
Details about the hex tank is what is needed here. Based on the dimensions of the sides, without knowing the height, I would guesstimate that it's around 15 gallons.
I am also questioning the same thing as black angel, why were the fish removed from the 150? When you say "cleaning", exactly what do you mean by this? Normally fish don't need to be removed from their tank for routine maintenance.
Since the fish died in the hex tank, this is the tank we should be discussing. Was the hex cycled before the fish were relocated, how about filtration, did you move the filter from the 150 to the hex?
You also didn't list nitrate, or anything about your routine water changes. Did you maybe place the fish in the hex with all new water without making sure KH, GH and pH were all a close match?
Details about the hex tank is what is needed here. Based on the dimensions of the sides, without knowing the height, I would guesstimate that it's around 15 gallons.
thelastbetta
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I had to remove the fish because the foxes had a bad habbit of freaking out when I began the water change and often tried to jump out, I didn't want to risk anything.
Everything was pretty much to same in the hex tank, pH was 0.2 but other than that all was normal. Usually there are a couple barbs in there to keep it cycled. Plus, they only go in there for a couple hours. Reason they were in the hex tank when I was gone was the person who was coming to check on them, decided it was easier to keep an eye on them in the little tank. (was that ever a mistake, last time i trust my neighbour with my fish, she had fish of her own so i just assumed she knew how to take care of them). well, i think i found out why they died. i went to feed my danios and found that half the food was gone, i guess she overfed them or something.
Everything was pretty much to same in the hex tank, pH was 0.2 but other than that all was normal. Usually there are a couple barbs in there to keep it cycled. Plus, they only go in there for a couple hours. Reason they were in the hex tank when I was gone was the person who was coming to check on them, decided it was easier to keep an eye on them in the little tank. (was that ever a mistake, last time i trust my neighbour with my fish, she had fish of her own so i just assumed she knew how to take care of them). well, i think i found out why they died. i went to feed my danios and found that half the food was gone, i guess she overfed them or something.
Tokis-Phoenix
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Some things just don't make sense;
a. If half the food was gone, they would have been some excess food lying around in the tank as i couldn't imagine even all my fish eating a half of the smallest tubs of food available in my lfs in a couple of days, and i have a fair amount of fish.
b. On top of the excess food, the dead bodys would have created ammonia in the tank as things like this does not take long at all to start rotting and causing ammonia.
c. If the hex tank had no fish in it before, there is no way it would have been cycled when you put them in. Adding such a large number of fish all at once even to a mature tank would have caused some water quality issues.
d. Just because there is no ammonia and nitrites present does not mean the tank isn't cycling, you need to have nitrate stats to rule out wether or not you had a healthy bacterial cycle going.
e. a PH of 0.2 is VERY low, somthing certainly does not seem right here, what is the PH stat in your big tank?
The stats just don't seem to be adding up to me, i do not believe you are lying at all as you have no reason to do so but either way, the stats just don't seem right. Test your water quality for ammonia, nitrites, nitrites and PH with a brand new accurate test kit, make sure it is a new test kit as ones that have been exposed to moisture, left out in the open in hot temps, or simply ones that are going old can all give misleading wrong stats, so i suggest you get a new kit for all these stats just to make sure whats going on in your water quality.
What are the tank dimensions for your 150gal tank?
a. If half the food was gone, they would have been some excess food lying around in the tank as i couldn't imagine even all my fish eating a half of the smallest tubs of food available in my lfs in a couple of days, and i have a fair amount of fish.
b. On top of the excess food, the dead bodys would have created ammonia in the tank as things like this does not take long at all to start rotting and causing ammonia.
c. If the hex tank had no fish in it before, there is no way it would have been cycled when you put them in. Adding such a large number of fish all at once even to a mature tank would have caused some water quality issues.
d. Just because there is no ammonia and nitrites present does not mean the tank isn't cycling, you need to have nitrate stats to rule out wether or not you had a healthy bacterial cycle going.
e. a PH of 0.2 is VERY low, somthing certainly does not seem right here, what is the PH stat in your big tank?
The stats just don't seem to be adding up to me, i do not believe you are lying at all as you have no reason to do so but either way, the stats just don't seem right. Test your water quality for ammonia, nitrites, nitrites and PH with a brand new accurate test kit, make sure it is a new test kit as ones that have been exposed to moisture, left out in the open in hot temps, or simply ones that are going old can all give misleading wrong stats, so i suggest you get a new kit for all these stats just to make sure whats going on in your water quality.
What are the tank dimensions for your 150gal tank?
thelastbetta
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a. There is excess food all across the gravel, shall I swirl the water around and take a picture so you can see it all floating up?
b. The test was taken before the fish were put in, not after.
c. There were cherry barbs in it, as said above.
d. The nitrate in the big tank is 23ppm.
e. pH in big tank is 0.0
And I don't know if my test kits are right.. I use this test kit, is that an accurate one or do you know?
I don't know what the problem is, I already found out why they died.
b. The test was taken before the fish were put in, not after.
c. There were cherry barbs in it, as said above.
d. The nitrate in the big tank is 23ppm.
e. pH in big tank is 0.0
And I don't know if my test kits are right.. I use this test kit, is that an accurate one or do you know?
I don't know what the problem is, I already found out why they died.
Mr Miagi
Veins are flowing with SW, now going back to FW!
Yay, Someone understodd what i was trying to say!
I think with half a tub of food gone, placed in the tank, water stats would be off the chart, cause its only been two days. I think thats why ppl are still trying to help you. If it was the food, there would be stats to show it. It could have been shock from the move.
thelastbetta
Fishaholic
Danios are much weaker than foxes, are they all survived.
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