Help With Buying A Filter

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can someone please tell me if this filter will be any good for my 3ft 150Liter tank i have about 20 basic tropical fish, also have a fluval 3 plus but dont think its working properly so need a new one and was just looking at external filters


<a href="http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/catalog...294&catID=6" target="_blank">http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/catalog...294&catID=6</a>

or just stay with an internal

[URL="http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/catalog...871&catID=3"]http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/catalog...871&catID=3[/URL]
 
can someone please tell me if this filter will be any good for my 3ft 150Liter tank i have about 20 basic tropical fish, also have a fluval 3 plus but dont think its working properly so need a new one and was just looking at external filters

<a href="http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/catalog...293&catID=6" target="_blank">http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/catalog...293&catID=6</a>

or

<a href="http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/catalog...294&catID=6" target="_blank">http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/catalog...294&catID=6</a>

from what I've learnt so far on this forum its better to overfilter, so i think you would need a slightly bigger filter if your tank is 150L. Afraid i don't have any alternative suggestions though :blush: sorry!
Edit: sorry, only got first link when i opened this thread, so was referring to the one that said "upto 150L", will go and read rest of links now! :rolleyes:
 
The easiest way to choose a filter is by understanding turnover. This is how often the water is pulled through the filter. Ignore the manufacturer's recommendations as these are usually based on optimistic conditions, a bit like how motor manufacturers quote the mileage of their cars, or cereal producers how many portions are in each box.

For a lightly stocked tank (i.e., one with small fish like neons and guppies) you need at least 4 times the volume of the tank in turnover per hour. So a 150 litre tank will need a filter rated at 4 x 150 = 600 litres per hour.

For a moderately stocked tank (i.e., one with medium sized or somewhat messy fish, like gouramis and angelfish) you need a turnover of 6 times the volume of the tank, in your case 6 x 150 = 900 litres per hour.

For a heavily stocked tank (e.g., goldfish, cichlids and plecs) or one with fish that need strong water currents (e.g., loaches, hillstream fish, Tanganyikans), then you need a turnover of 8-10 times the volume of the tank, i.e., 1200 - 1500 litres per hour.

With few exceptions, you can't go wrong using more filtration that you might imagine. Very few fish object to strong currents, and most prefer much faster water than we give them in captivity. Stronger currents mean more exercise for them, so they behave as if they're in a much larger tank. They have to work harder getting food, and this makes life more interesting for them.

While everyone has their biases, it's hard to go wrong with a decent external canister filter or a properly maintained undergravel filter, if you can live with the limitations of the latter design in terms of plants and rockwork. Both provide optimal value for money. Internal canister filters can work well, and are very easy to maintain, but are expensive for what they do in terms of money spent versus turnover and filter capacity. Hang-on-the-back filters are easy to maintain but are not particularly efficient at creating uniform water flow throughout the tank, and I dislike especially those models that lock you into using filter media cartridges that serve no real value, like carbon. Air-powered filters are worthwhile only in relatively small tanks, but in those situations they excel, e.g., with fish fry.

There is no reason you cannot use two or more filters on one tank, and in fact combining two different types of filter is in some ways the idea. The combination of a canister filter with an undergravel filter (a "reverse-flow undergravel filter") for example is one of the best ways to maintain Rift Valley cichlids.

Cheers, Neale
 
thanx heaps Neale,

but 1 question, if there were 2 filters with the same both turnover, use the same power cost the same, but 1 is internal n the other is external, What would u buy??
 
If both filters have the same turnover, then on paper at least, either is as good. Choose whichever suits.

External filters are trickier to clean, but they are easier to hide, so if the "look" of a tank is important, they're the clear winner. They're also good because the inlet and outlet are at other ends of the tank, so you have the best possible circulation around the tank, something especially important in large or deep tanks.

Internal filters are easy to maintain, which means you'll maintain them more often. So that's a major advantage. On the other hand, they're difficult to hide and waste space inside the tank you could be using for rocks, plants or whatever. Because they suck water in and blow water out at the same end of the tank, water circulation is strongest at the end where the filter is, and weak at the other end. So in tanks with messy fish, or with plants, you often get detritus collecting at the far end of the tank because it doesn't get sucked or blown towards the filter.

One last thing: also review filter media options. Avoid filters that force you to use cartridges from one particular manufacturer. For small fish, a filter with nothing more than sponge will be just fine. But if you're keeping messier fish, you'll likely want the option to pick-and-choose a variety of filter media. Filter wool and ceramic noodles make a good combination, the filter wool for filtering out silt and the ceramic noodles for biological filtration. Some filter manufacturers accomplish the same thing by incorporating a range of sponges from fine to coarse, each good at one particular job.

If all else fails, go with a good brand. You really can't make a mistake with an Eheim filter, all of which are well designed and extremely reliable.

Cheers, Neale

but 1 question, if there were 2 filters with the same both turnover, use the same power cost the same, but 1 is internal n the other is external, What would u buy??
 

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