Help Please

[abax83]

I have an Aqua One AR126

It looks like this

My betta hates the current and when the filter is on he just wedges himself in a plant and wont move until it
switches off.

Please help me kill the current the filter looks like this

Any ideas? any help would be greatly Appreciated

 

[Elise]

Isn't there just an off switch? Bettas don't need a filter. The pictures won't display for me so I can't help much more.

 

[abax83]

Isn't there just an off switch? Bettas don't need a filter. The pictures won't display for me so I can't help much more.

last time i did tun it off he had a fungus within two days, it is the only time I have had a prob like that, so im a little paranoid about it. Thanks for the suggestion though

 

[liz2]

Neither of my bettas have filters. I just make sure the water is kept fresh and they are fine. The one in the split tank had the filter his side but he hated it he kept sulking up the corner.

 

[ThinIce]

Neither of my bettas have filters. I just make sure the water is kept fresh and they are fine. The one in the split tank had the filter his side but he hated it he kept sulking up the corner.

I'm always interested when this discussion comes up. I purchased my betta from a local maidenhead aquatics where all the tanks have a fair bit of current and only a token plastic plant or imitation log. None of the bettas ever do the things I've seen described on here which is weird, this is repeated in other local LFS's where cories go mental swimming in the current from incoming water and the betta is at the other end of the tank looking perfectly happy.

I purchased my betta from the afore mentioned MA and he's in a 31L tank (9 or 10 gallons?) with the filtration that came with this which creates a fair bit of current and it has never bothered him. He goes a little pale if I switch the airation / pump on because this tends to cause much more surface disruption making it more difficult for him to get to the surface to breath. The filter runs 24/7 for the benefit of the other fish in the tank.

At the end of the day it seems to depend where you got your betta from and whats hes used to, I've seen people report bettas die from being switched to tanks with strong currents, and if we're talking about a mature fish, who has never been kept with filtration this sort of change is going to be immensely stressful, thats just logic.

You can do things to cut down the current / surface disturbance. Turn off the air pump / bubble wand if you have it - even with fish that need a high oxygen level like ottos (I have these in with my betta) if you have a filter that drops water into the tank, you may not need it. The water falls in my tank onto a piece of mopani wood which cuts the downward current into the water. Also, remember Bettas will rest in plants, on the surface etc. As long as he can reach the surface without difficulty (you'll see him stuggling) is not constantly pale and is eating, don't worry too much

 

[cliffydoggy]

Neither of my bettas have filters. I just make sure the water is kept fresh and they are fine. The one in the split tank had the filter his side but he hated it he kept sulking up the corner.

I'm always interested when this discussion comes up. I purchased my betta from a local maidenhead aquatics where all the tanks have a fair bit of current and only a token plastic plant or imitation log. None of the bettas ever do the things I've seen described on here which is weird, this is repeated in other local LFS's where cories go mental swimming in the current from incoming water and the betta is at the other end of the tank looking perfectly happy.

I purchased my betta from the afore mentioned MA and he's in a 31L tank (9 or 10 gallons?) with the filtration that came with this which creates a fair bit of current and it has never bothered him. He goes a little pale if I switch the airation / pump on because this tends to cause much more surface disruption making it more difficult for him to get to the surface to breath. The filter runs 24/7 for the benefit of the other fish in the tank.

At the end of the day it seems to depend where you got your betta from and whats hes used to, I've seen people report bettas die from being switched to tanks with strong currents, and if we're talking about a mature fish, who has never been kept with filtration this sort of change is going to be immensely stressful, thats just logic.

You can do things to cut down the current / surface disturbance. Turn off the air pump / bubble wand if you have it - even with fish that need a high oxygen level like ottos (I have these in with my betta) if you have a filter that drops water into the tank, you may not need it. The water falls in my tank onto a piece of mopani wood which cuts the downward current into the water. Also, remember Bettas will rest in plants, on the surface etc. As long as he can reach the surface without difficulty (you'll see him stuggling) is not constantly pale and is eating, don't worry too much

actually, bettas can't breathe using air pumps:
Even though Bettas do well in waters low in dissolved oxygen, that does not mean they require less oxygen than other fish. Bettas have a special respiratory organ that allows them to breath air directly from the surface. In fact they inherently must do so. In experiments where the labyrinth organ was removed, the fish died from suffocation even though the water was saturated with oxygen. For this reason, Bettas must have access to the water surface to breath air directly from the atmosphere.

this site is pretty good : http/freshaquarium.about.com/cs/anabantids2/p/betta.htm
bye

 

[ThinIce]

actually, bettas can't breathe using air pumps:
Even though Bettas do well in waters low in dissolved oxygen, that does not mean they require less oxygen than other fish. Bettas have a special respiratory organ that allows them to breath air directly from the surface. In fact they inherently must do so. In experiments where the labyrinth organ was removed, the fish died from suffocation even though the water was saturated with oxygen. For this reason, Bettas must have access to the water surface to breath air directly from the atmosphere.

this site is pretty good : http/freshaquarium.about.com/cs/anabantids2/p/betta.htm
bye

I don't know if you intended to quote me, but at which point did I suggest that bettas require less oxygen? I ( as you did) explicitly suggested that the betta should be able to reach the surface without difficulty. In tall tanks they may need to rest on plants, and I for one have observed that my betta prefers to 'rest' in some plants near the surface. Whether he is acutally asleep or not, I'm not sure

 

[cliffydoggy]

I don't know if you intended to quote me, but at which point did I suggest that bettas require less oxygen? I ( as you did) explicitly suggested that the betta should be able to reach the surface without difficulty. In tall tanks they may need to rest on plants, and I for one have observed that my betta prefers to 'rest' in some plants near the surface. Whether he is acutally asleep or not, I'm not sure

actually i did..haha, it's because you said you had an airpump and i'm just stating it's useless. And i didn't say that bettas require less oxygen, did you read the whole thing? those wierdo scientist killed bettas!


sorryyy

bye

 

[ThinIce]

actually i did..haha, it's because you said you had an airpump and i'm just stating it's useless. And i didn't say that bettas require less oxygen, did you read the whole thing? those wierdo scientist killed bettas!


sorryyy

bye

lol no problem. But in my case ( as stated in my original post ) the air pump is a very useful permenant fixture in case the filter should fail ( my betta is housed with other fish so in the event the filter gives up the ghost, turning on the air pump will keep those fish alive for some hours so I can get on with fitting a new filter pump or creating more surface agitation should my ottos look lethargic

 

[tttnjfttt]

If you do decide to turn off the filter, try using a dechlorinator that will also help remove ammonia. Possibly ammonia build up weakened your fish's immune system and led to the fungus (which, FYI, was probably columnaris, a bacterial disease) .

 

[winddancer70]

My 6 male bettas don't like a filter running at all. My females are in a planted 10 gallon and dont mind it a bit. I think it maybe all what the fish is used to.

 

[happyannie]

I'm not exactly a Betta expert but just set a tank for a new little baby one. I know what you mean about filters creating too much of a current. I got a tank for my 1st Betta with filter when it looked to me like he was getting Ick. I'll give you the brands of this new stuff I have. I got a Hagen plastic filter thing which had a little pump with it. I didn't like the plastic thing but wanted to keep the pump. It's small and doesn't create a big fat disturbance of the water. I went to the local pet store I trust to give me halfway decent advice and got a Lee's Quick & Easy corner filter which I then hooked up to the pump. If need be, I can move it to a different corner to keep a rotation going so I make sure we're being clean in his tank. He's such a leetle guy too and so cute. I picked him out as he was being spun around by the current of the filter at the pet store. He's already been over to check out the new filter and it seemed to pass muster with him. He's not having to fight upstream as he was when I found him and seems quite content. Hope this helps!