Help Id This Cory!

[Paradise3]

 

I half expected a couple of people to mention this species and in all honesty, this species didn't even cross my mind untill i re-read the first lot of replies to the thread just

.... i think alot of people consider C.ret and C. sod to be the same species but catch location just different.... where as others consider them to be separate. 

 
The only difference I see with Reticulatus is that they don't have the small lateral(practically) line

 
Between sodalis and ret or ret and trili?.... the considered difference between sod and rit is the round splodge on the dorsal.... however ive had Ian fuller tell me himself this isn't a true way to differentiate them..... i still stand by sodalis but retic could be a distinct possibility.... trili 100% not

 
Between Ret and this cory, this cory has the small line black line just before their tail which Ret don't seem to and if they do it's very tiny.

 

[JenCliBee]

 

 

I half expected a couple of people to mention this species and in all honesty, this species didn't even cross my mind untill i re-read the first lot of replies to the thread just

.... i think alot of people consider C.ret and C. sod to be the same species but catch location just different.... where as others consider them to be separate. 

 
The only difference I see with Reticulatus is that they don't have the small lateral(practically) line

 
Between sodalis and ret or ret and trili?.... the considered difference between sod and rit is the round splodge on the dorsal.... however ive had Ian fuller tell me himself this isn't a true way to differentiate them..... i still stand by sodalis but retic could be a distinct possibility.... trili 100% not

 
Between Ret and this cory, this cory has the small line black line just before their tail which Ret don't seem to and if they do it's very tiny.

 
???, so what do you think it is now?...   i assure you, slight pattern deviations isnt a way to defintiate species, you will run in circles with different pictures...some having this slight pattern and others not.
 
 
 

I'm just looking for opinions to put to rest the "It's definitely a Sodalis, I know what I'm talking about because I've been breeding all sorts of species of Corydoras for over 10 years" claim.

 
 
Do me a favour though please (in the nicest way)... please don't run around on other forums, name mentioned or not and state that i claimed to know all when i mentioned the experience i had....i stated i had the experience as to challenge your initial comment regarding Harlequins.. it certainly wasn't to blow my own trumpet...as i specifically wrote.
 
I'm not big headed and don't claim to know anything or everything.... i initially stated that your comment of it been 'a false julli' was wrong, i was correct!.... yes i did back track slightly on the sod/ret but that's because i don't consider this as an alternative and it didn't even come to mind when i saw the cory tbh. 
 
As i mentioned, i don't mean this nastily but please don't twist words to make me sound as if i think i'm a know it all

 

[Paradise3]

 

 

 

I half expected a couple of people to mention this species and in all honesty, this species didn't even cross my mind untill i re-read the first lot of replies to the thread just

.... i think alot of people consider C.ret and C. sod to be the same species but catch location just different.... where as others consider them to be separate. 

 
The only difference I see with Reticulatus is that they don't have the small lateral(practically) line

 
Between sodalis and ret or ret and trili?.... the considered difference between sod and rit is the round splodge on the dorsal.... however ive had Ian fuller tell me himself this isn't a true way to differentiate them..... i still stand by sodalis but retic could be a distinct possibility.... trili 100% not

 
Between Ret and this cory, this cory has the small line black line just before their tail which Ret don't seem to and if they do it's very tiny.

 
???, so what do you think it is now?...   i assure you, slight pattern deviations isnt a way to defintiate species, you will run in circles with different pictures...some having this slight pattern and others not.
 
 
 

>I'm just looking for opinions to put to rest the "It's definitely a Sodalis, I know what I'm talking about because I've been breeding all sorts of species of Corydoras for over 10 years" claim.

 
 
Do me a favour though please (in the nicest way)... please don't run around on other forums, name mentioned or not and state that i claimed to know all when i mentioned the experience i had....i stated i had the experience as to challenge your initial comment regarding Harlequins.. it certainly wasn't to blow my own trumpet...as i specifically wrote.
 
I'm not big headed and don't claim to know anything or everything.... i initially stated that your comment of it been 'a false julli' was wrong, i was correct!.... yes i did back track slightly on the sod/ret but that's because i don't consider this as an alternative and it didn't even come to mind when i saw the cory tbh. 
 
As i mentioned, i don't mean this nastily but please don't twist words to make me sound as if i think i'm a know it all

 

 
Sorry, that's how it came across to me. Like you were trying to say "I know more than you and Harlequins because I've bred them for over 10 years so don't question me" I'm sorry if I took this in the wrong way

 

[JenCliBee]

Sorry, that's how it came across to me. Like you were trying to say "I know more than you and Harlequins because I've bred them for over 10 years so don't question me" I'm sorry if I took this in the wrong way

 
 
No need to be sorry, i just wanted to state that i don't consider myself any more knowledgeable in a sense to anybody else, i'm often wrong along with many many other people.... but i will always state that i am wrong if i am .
 
The comment was purely a reply to yours when stating Harlequins knows her stuff, i took it as though it was a sense to put me in my place even though ive had triple the years in retrospect to experience.... she is a very competent breeder, there is no denying this... however, ID'ing and breeding are completely different sides of the coin and 'I' consider myself a far better breeder than an ID'er lol.
 
But.... as mentioned, i don't mean to be nasty with them comments, i just don't want to be seen nor portrayed as a know it all

 

[Paradise3]

Sorry, that's how it came across to me. Like you were trying to say "I know more than you and Harlequins because I've bred them for over 10 years so don't question me" I'm sorry if I took this in the wrong way

 
 
No need to be sorry, i just wanted to state that i don't consider myself any more knowledgeable in a sense to anybody else, i'm often wrong along with many many other people.... but i will always state that i am wrong if i am

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The comment was purely a reply to yours when stating Harlequins knows her stuff, i took it as though it was a sense to put me in my place even though ive had triple the years in retrospect to experience.... she is a very competent breeder, there is no denying this... however, ID'ing and breeding are completely different sides of the coin and 'I' consider myself a far better breeder than an ID'er lol.
 
But.... as mentioned, i don't mean to be nasty with them comments, i just don't want to be seen nor portrayed as a know it all

 
No, no. I wasn't trying to "put you in your place" I was simply stating that Harlequins was a dedicated breeder of Corydoras as I didn't know you knew about that already But you always get surprises on forums eh? XD
I completely understand and will go edit my post now

 

[JenCliBee]

No, no. I wasn't trying to "put you in your place" I was simply stating that Harlequins was a dedicated breeder of Corydoras as I didn't know you knew about that already

But you always get surprises on forums eh? XD
I completely understand and will go edit my post now

 
 

 

[MBOU]

I don't know what the cory *is* but my first thought when I saw photo was "it's definately not a trilineatus.. though does look very similar.."
 
It looks nothing like the Sodalis I have now or have ever kept... but then again... I don't know naff all about regional variations and if i think about it... i dont know 100% its Sodalis i even have
 
It is nice to have several people who 'know their stuff' in this section.... because identifying corys and other catfish seems to be far more difficult than any other group!
 
JenCliBee, I vaguely remember reading posts of yours about cories.. at least.. I know you... cant remember specific posts though! Do you have any fish at all at the moment?

 

[Ruskull]

 

I half expected a couple of people to mention this species and in all honesty, this species didn't even cross my mind untill i re-read the first lot of replies to the thread just

.... i think alot of people consider C.ret and C. sod to be the same species but catch location just different.... where as others consider them to be separate. 

 
The only difference I see with Reticulatus is that they don't have the small lateral(practically) line

 
Between sodalis and ret or ret and trili?.... the considered difference between sod and rit is the round splodge on the dorsal.... however ive had Ian fuller tell me himself this isn't a true way to differentiate them..... i still stand by sodalis but retic could be a distinct possibility.... trili 100% not

I meant no disrespect with my reply, but I can't see how it's possible that these aren't Trilineatus Corydoras.  I own them, please explain what you see in the pictures that says it def. isn't.  Seriously, I'd like to know what to look out for.  Mine were sold to me as Julii Corries but I knew they weren't, I could see the reticulated patterns immediately.  I know other types have these patterns but they lack the three lines, 2 light & 1 dark.  The splotch on the dorsal & the overall shape of the body and fin length says C. Trilineatus.  Coloration, everything. 

 

[Ruskull]

Here's a few pics of my Three Stripe Corries:
 

 

 

 

 
 

 

[JenCliBee]

I don't know what the cory *is* but my first thought when I saw photo was "it's definately not a trilineatus.. though does look very similar.."
 
It looks nothing like the Sodalis I have now or have ever kept... but then again... I don't know naff all about regional variations and if i think about it... i dont know 100% its Sodalis i even have

 
It is nice to have several people who 'know their stuff' in this section.... because identifying corys and other catfish seems to be far more difficult than any other group!

 
JenCliBee, I vaguely remember reading posts of yours about cories.. at least.. I know you... cant remember specific posts though! Do you have any fish at all at the moment?

Hi mate, get a pic up, will can have another friendly debate on there ID

..... i don't currently have any tanks nor any fish.... our third child was born about 4 weeks ago and with a loss of interest and trying to make a bit of space i decided to have a break for a while

..... i'm sure it wont be long before i'm back in the game... but for now, i'm enjoying a life free of tank maintenance

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I meant no disrespect with my reply, but I can't see how it's possible that these aren't Trilineatus Corydoras.  I own them, please explain what you see in the pictures that says it def. isn't.  Seriously, I'd like to know what to look out for.  Mine were sold to me as Julii Corries but I knew they weren't, I could see the reticulated patterns immediately.  I know other types have these patterns but they lack the three lines, 2 light & 1 dark.  The splotch on the dorsal & the overall shape of the body and fin length says C. Trilineatus.  Coloration, everything. 

 
 
No offense taken in the slightest mate, best way to explain would be through pictures tbh.....
 

 

 
Top 3 pics show a sodalis and the 4th a trili.....
 
First thing that's noticeable is body shape, the sods body is much deeper, plump and heavier.... where as the trili has a much slender/sleek body.
 
Secondly, have a look at the snout, in proportion to body size/depth, the sods nose is a lot more stout/stubby, the shape in it's self isn't all that different in that pic but you can still see the difference quite abit.
 
If you actually saw these fish in the flesh side by side, honestly you would see no comparison at all, i assure you

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TBH, there is a distinct difference with these fish, i'm so surprised that so many people are actually comparing it to a trili, for me the patterning gives it away instantly but with the other aspects mentioned, its a for gone conclusion that it's 100% not a trili.
 
Hope that helps mate, the best way to compare is to google search both species and see what pops up, sods/rit's patterning can be so diverse where as the trili's pattern very rarely differs for your standard lfs brought stock, there is often a few with a completely spotted head but they don't turn up all that often.

 

[Ruskull]

The 1st picture looks like Sodalis while the 2nd & 3rd look like a hybrid variation of a Thrilineatus, especially the 2nd.  The top three all look more plump in body, I see what you mean.  The patterns are different but in the wild those things have a way of happening.   


Not to hijack the thread, but what pray tell are these Corries that my father has?  They were sold at Petco as Julii but I'm pretty sure they aren't.  Not quite a Julii, not quite a Trilineatus, not quite any type I've ever seen before.  These are pictures I took when they first went into the tank so their colors are a bit faded:
 

 

 

[JenCliBee]

I can't really see the pic that well on my phone but from what I can see they are C. Leopardus, will have a better look tomoz once I'm on my laptop

 

[scotty]

well they are definately all corys thats for sure!!!

 

[Paradise3]

Just thought I'd let everyone know, people on PC have come to the conclusion that it's not a Sodalis, not a Trilineatus, not a Reticulatus but a CW061.

 

[JenCliBee]

Just thought I'd let everyone know, people on PC have come to the conclusion that it's not a Sodalis, not a Trilineatus, not a Reticulatus but a CW061.

 
 
 

Cw061 may just turn out to be C. sodalis (which it is very close to) with a dorsal blotch.

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