Heeeeelllllpppppp!!!  snails!!!

Ostrow.
Firstly I would do as Davy suggests if you don't get an infestation of snails. Then there's Williams idea of salt. I would advise caution against using table salt as these contain harmful chemicals that will be absorbed by plants. What William calls hypotonic is called Osmosis.( You would have learned that in 4 yr biology-basic stuff-can you remember the humble Amoeba?!). Use proper tonic salt with no chems in it. However there is a danger that there is a chance that you could kill your plants and still have snails. You see snail eggs are quite impervious to chems. Strong salt solution can, using osmotic action draw out the amnoitic fluid within the snails egg, but the snail will cocoon itself in a strong mucus,its own defence and could still survive. However, Once hatched and/or the shell in compromised, the snail is vulnerable to chems and other forms of elimination. You need to get to that stage.
What I have learned to do is when I put plants in-and this is the boring part. I make up a strong solution of salt in a bowl and individually clean each leaf in the solution by running my fingers over leaves. If you are doing this to cambomba you need to be quite delicate. After cleaning each plant carefully, leaf,stem and roots, I leave them out on a damp cloth for a few minutes while I examine them carefully for damage etc. I then rinse the plants is clean water and then I'm in a position to plant them. It all seems a lot of work to "push" in a few plants, but the rewards are tenfold, and hopefully you will not have any unwanted guests. :laugh: :what:
 
Thanks Dragonslair. Yikes, that is quite a process you have. So you use aquarium salt, in what concentration, approx?

Running fingers over roots has got to be a gentle, gentle process. Are you a surgeon??? (or a sturgeon :p )

Thanks. Any other ideas would be nice ... still don't know what that "Snail Away" stuff Anna suggested is all about... But salt might be more useful vs. parasites, etc, too...
 
Don't know about surgeon m8...sturgeon maybe lol :laugh:
I dunno the quantities, its a judgement call. Probably a tablespoon per pint of water (ish...)Snail away is a mild soluable solution of a disinfectant basically. I have it amongst my arsenal-rarely have to use it. In fact it almost a full bottle less a couple of capfuls.
I know its a hell of an inconvenience doing it my way but in the long run it save you stripping down your tank!
 
Ok. I'm envisioning torn roots, broken stems, and multiple returns to the fish store.

I suppose you could dry the busted ones and smoke 'em :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Any experience with Clear Water or Lime-It as plant dips? Some web searching and a guy at The Tropical Tank discussion forum recommend these products (the forum guy recommended Clear Water).

I may get something like Snail Away or Had-A-Snail and treat the tank to try and prevent a new outbreak before more return ... I'm worried they are still in/on those rocks even though I did rinse them.
 
The only chem. "clear water" I've got is Aqua plus Clear. This is a solution that you put into your tank with the filter turned off for a few hours. The water in the tank turns a milky white as the solution clumps the fine suspension of waste matter within the aquarium and takes it to the bottom where, when the filter is switched on again the clumped matter is dealt with. Thus leaving your water...Clear. (in theory) I've used it a couple of times and it takes probably a few treatments to get absolute clear water. It also depends on the types of fishes you have. Obviously if the're "diggers", they are going to churn up more waste from the substrate than an ordinary "swimmy" around fish..Get my drift? As to your snail problem, just keep an eye open and as soon as you see them elimate it. They will so die off.
 
Hey, I got this from another forum, but I'm asking for verification here because people here tend to be more informed I think and more versed. But this guy seemed to know what he was talking about. The subject was what to do for plants before introducing into a tank:

Here is what i would do, this is simple and easy:

Go to your LFS and get Jungle Lab's Clear Water. Use this as a plant soak. You would use 1 tsp./1 gallon water for floating plants and do not soak more than 10 minutes. For rooted plants you can increase the Clear Water to 2 tsp./1 gallon water and soak for 5-15 minutes. Clear water is Potassium permanganate.

This link suggested that ingredient kills snails and their eggs on plants: www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/snails.htm

This is the link to the thread: http://pub73.ezboard.com/fthetro....5.topic

Thanks all.
 
Ostrow,
ersonally I would steer clear of P.P. You can but it from the chemists in crystal form. In its dry state it's harmless,but once wet it's lethal. It will stain everything it touches pinkish/red and it is absolutely lethal to fish and inverts. You would need to use latex gloves when handling raw P.P as the stain does not come off skin too easily. I suppose in the Clear stuff, it is probably so diluted down that you're charged the earth for it and it is so weak you would need bottles of it. ( someone has to make money from the guillable) ;) I have never used clear, but in my past days at medical school I have used p.p and it is a deadly poison.
 
OOops typos again! :blush:
I would stick to the common tonic salt. Its tried and tested and natural. It's also CHEAP!!!
I don't doubt the guy at the other forum knows what he talking about, but p.p. is so unstable and you need to make sure every trace is washed off the plants, before introducing the plants back into the aquarium it not worth the risk. My personal opinion only,of course 8)
 
So you are saying I should sprinkle some on my steak and eat it? :D :D 8)

I'll go your way
 
I've never heard of "tonic salt." Is aquarium salt the same thing?
 
Dragonslair said:
I have never used clear, but in my past days at medical school I have used p.p and it is a deadly poison.
Hi!
Maybe you ought to make it clear that you're talking about fish here! Potassium permanganate is a commonly used medication for severe skin disorders, such as psoriosis and severe eczema, in the form of a bath. It does stain everything it touches, but I'd hardly call it a deadly poison (otherwise I shouldn't be alive!) ;)

OTOH, fish a sensitive to chemicals and it is quite possibly deadly to them.
 
Sorry Anna..I stand corrected.
Ostrow, p.p. is a deadly poison to FISH, although enough of it on your steak and chips may do the same thing... :laugh: :laugh:
 

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