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[fluttermoth]

thoroughbreds.....

Purebreds Ludwig; thoroughbred is a breed of horse

Look at the synonyms for Thoroughbred....... = Pedigree, Purebred, Pure-bred, Pure......

It is mostly applicable to Horses but will also refer to any purebred bloodlines and with my involvement with the SPCA, I've often been a judge in the Rottweillers' thoroughbred shows (or basically any other type of "Thoroughbred" dog breeds)..... It does not refer to a specific breed of horse..... merely an indication that the animal does not have any mixed bloodlines in it's genes.....

Well, maybe the usage is different in SA, Ludwig, but it would be frowned upon in the UK! 'Thoroughbred' should always and only be used for the breed of horse here; using it as a synonym for 'purebred' is colloquially common, but incorrect

 

[minnnt]

I would be well annoyed, buying some mollies is bad enough and then ending up with a couple of dozen of them would just feel disgusting

 

[Ludwig Venter]

Well, maybe the usage is different in SA, Ludwig, but it would be frowned upon in the UK! 'Thoroughbred' should always and only be used for the breed of horse here; using it as a synonym for 'purebred' is colloquially common, but incorrect

Herewith Quoted from "Webster's Home University Dictionary".... (1,300 pages)

Thoroughbred:n. 1 An animal descended from the purest stock. 2 A person of fine background with courage and aristocratic ways.

Thoroughbred: adj.1Descended from the finest stock. 2 Courageous and elegant

'Thoroughbred' should always and only be used for the breed of horse here;

Which breed of horse??.....

 

[fluttermoth]

Well, maybe the usage is different in SA, Ludwig, but it would be frowned upon in the UK! 'Thoroughbred' should always and only be used for the breed of horse here; using it as a synonym for 'purebred' is colloquially common, but incorrect

Herewith Quoted from "Webster's Home University Dictionary".... (1,300 pages)

Thoroughbred:n. 1 An animal descended from the purest stock. 2 A person of fine background with courage and aristocratic ways.

Thoroughbred: adj.1Descended from the finest stock. 2 Courageous and elegant

Well, I know it's often defined that way, but in the horse world, it really gets people's backs up According to the OED, it's an informal usage. I just don't see the point in using 'thoroughbred', which has a separate, technical definition, when we already have the perfectly good word 'purebred'.

I mean, probably more people use 'should of', or 'could of' rather than the correct 'should have', but that doesn't mean we should redefine the usage for their convenience!

Why, yes, I am a language pedant!

'Thoroughbred' should always and only be used for the breed of horse here;

Which breed of horse??.....

I'm sorry, I didn't word that very clearly What I meant was, "in the UK, the word 'thoroughbred' should be used only to refer to the breed of horse".

I think that's called being 'hoist by your own petard'

 

[Ludwig Venter]

What may look like a heated arguement over here (to the outsider) is in fact a very healthy discussion and waaaaaaayyy off the topic... (but what the heck!!.... it is my thread and I have my permission to deviate a little)......

To continue just a little more on "Thoroughbreds"..... I have looked up "Horsebreeds" and amoungst the 600 odd breeds... there is in fact a breed called "Thoroughbreds"..... (which they also claim to be controversial in the description thereof - mainly refering to racehorses.... and I add it in support of your statement, Flutterm)....

but now..... (in my closing statement to this discussion)..... in the sense that it is used refering to a breed of horse.... it is used as a noun and no provission is made for the existance of any adjective called "thoroughbred"..... so we are talking crossed purposes....

So!.... if you allow for (and recognise) the word to be an adjective....(as depicted in my very expensive dictionary, you'll have to agree that it would refer to a creature or "animal" which is pedigreed and of pure bloodstrain and that my reference to "thoroughbred" Midnight Black Lyretail Mollies is descriptive enough to make everybody (South Africans included).... understand what I am talking about in any part of the world.... (I mean... even you knew that I was refering to purebred Mollies)....

I will allow you a closing statement and then retake this thread where we left off.... Thanks for the heated arguement.... (I'm also a "Language pendant".... even though I'm not English speaking)....

 

[Tizer]

I knew what you meant Ludwig. I also picked up on its incorrect usage like flutter did. But it didn't bother me as I'm used to hearing plenty of illiterate youngsters over here in England, where the queens English is somewhat non existent Innit, brah. You cant afford to be pedantic on this forum, where all the American folk type with broken English day in day out

 

[Ludwig Venter]

I knew what you meant Ludwig. I also picked up on its incorrect usage like flutter did.

Ouch!!.... now you also imply that it was incorrectly used..... I maintain..... IT CAN BE USED IN THIS CONTEXT!.... I'm not shouting .... just saying....

A dumb Afrikaner trying to teach the English their own language....

 

[fluttermoth]

What may look like a heated arguement over here (to the outsider) is in fact a very healthy discussion and waaaaaaayyy off the topic... (but what the heck!!.... it is my thread and I have my permission to deviate a little)......

Indeed! I'm certainly not going to fall out with someone I highly respect, just over the usage of a word!

To continue just a little more on "Thoroughbreds"..... I have looked up "Horsebreeds" and amoungst the 600 odd breeds... there is in fact a breed called "Thoroughbreds"..... (which they also claim to be controversial in the description thereof - mainly refering to racehorses.... and I add it in support of your statement, Flutterm)....

I can't believe there is anything controversial about the definition of the breed thoroughbred! It's one of the most strictly defined of all horse breeds; a horse that is registered at Weatherby's and can trace it's ancestry back to one of the three founding stallions (the Godolphin arabian, the Darley arabian and the Byerley turk, in case anyone's interested). All racehorses are thoroughbreds, but not all thoroughbreds are racehorses!

but now..... (in my closing statement to this discussion)..... in the sense that it is used refering to a breed of horse.... it is used as a noun and no provission is made for the existance of any adjective called "thoroughbred"..... so we are talking crossed purposes....

On the other hand, according to the OED;

"Definition of thoroughbred"

adjective
(of a horse) of pure breed, especially of a breed originating from English mares and Arab stallions and widely used as racehorses:
some riders will only buy thoroughbred horses

informal of outstanding quality:
this thoroughbred car affords the luxury of three spoilers"

So!.... if you allow for (and recognise) the word to be an adjective....(as depicted in my very expensive dictionary, you'll have to agree that it would refer to a creature or "animal" which is pedigreed and of pure bloodstrain and that my reference to "thoroughbred" Midnight Black Lyretail Mollies is descriptive enough to make everybody (South Africans included).... understand what I am talking about in any part of the world.... (I mean... even you knew that I was refering to purebred Mollies)....

Well, yes, I will concede that point, quite readily!

I will allow you a closing statement and then retake this thread where we left off.... Thanks for the heated arguement.... (I'm also a "Language pendant".... even though I'm not English speaking)....

Yes; back to your mollies! Looking forward to seeing some pics of them as they grow up

 

[Alm0stAwesome]

I agree that it can be used in the context of what you're saying Lud. Any anyone who disagrees with the use of thoroughbred, as Ludwig used it, is just showing the lack of scope in their own vocabulary! So THERE Tizer - and far be it for you to ever be pedantic!

But what do I know I'm just a dumb American.

All racehorses are thoroughbreds, but not all thoroughbreds are racehorses!

You've forgotten Quarter Horses, which are also race horses.

 

[fluttermoth]

I agree that it can be used in the context of what you're saying Lud. Any anyone who disagrees with the use of thoroughbred, as Ludwig used it, is just showing the lack of scope in their own vocabulary! So THERE Tizer - and far be it for you to ever be pedantic!

But what do I know I'm just a dumb American.

But you can improve your vocabulary by using the correct words, not just any old word that means roughly the same thing! Else we could all wander round calling canines 'cats', or guppies ' goodeids'!

All racehorses are thoroughbreds, but not all thoroughbreds are racehorses!

You've forgotten Quarter Horses, which are also race horses.

(again, )

 

[Tizer]

Woot, i got a bite, 1 - 0 to me

 

[minnnt]

First of the day CA?

 

[Ludwig Venter]

OK..... here we are back on topic..... I'm so glad someone asked for pics.... gives me the opportunity to testdrive (if that is the correct word) my home-made photograph tank.....:

Here is a picture of the male I purchaced:

This is the "Expired" pregnancy (note the term)

and here are a couple of the fry:

and then some more....

 

[minnnt]

Niiiiiiice!

 

[Alm0stAwesome]

Very nice! I'm liking the photobox too