Getting Back Into It With A 35L! Stocking And Filter?

[minikarter]

Hey! So it's been a long time since I last visited these forums. Before I had a betta in my 35L Arcadia Arc tank about 2 years ago, unfortunately he had to go to a new home after I got a place at Uni.

NOW myself and the gf want to re-establish the tank in our new flat. Unfortunately she has no experience of fish keeping whatsoever, and as such, wants all the amazing colours she can possibly get. Unfortunately, I'm naturally concerned with stocking and am feeling like the bad guy saying no to everything that usually eat others, or that will grow several cm long or bigger.

So, here's the future possible shopping list: 2 Dwarf Gouramis, 2 male guppies and hopefully a cleanup crew of either 2 shrimp or some pygmy cory's.
What's the opinion on this? My only concern from previous experience are the Gouramis and their potential full grown size. Would those fish numbers be ok?

Also, question 2, I'm looking to get an external filter so I can maximise the volume inside the tank. Since it's small, I don't want too large a curren or too big a receipt at the till! What would people suggest?



Further development info, we're going for a modern look white gravel, green plants and planning on an air stone to further help oxygen and co2 dissolve in.

 

[Aqua Tom]

You are off to a good start with the Betta, is a small tank so how about a biowheel filter, A 100 Gallon per hour would be ideal.

http/www.petmountain.com/product/aquarium-power-filters/11442-502944/marineland-penguin-bio-wheel-power-filter.html?utm_campaign=performics&utm_medium=affiliate

 

[minikarter]

You are off to a good start with the Betta, is a small tank so how about a biowheel filter, A 100 Gallon per hour would be ideal.

http/www.petmountain.com/product/aquarium-power-filters/11442-502944/marineland-penguin-bio-wheel-power-filter.html?utm_campaign=performics&utm_medium=affiliate

100 gallons per hour?? Are you sure about that? That would be the entire volume of the tank being filtered 10 times every hour, seems a bit like overkill to me? Plus these penguin biowheels.. are they available in the uk?
I just found the eheim aquacompact range, would they not be more suitable?

I'm not quite sure you read the question either.. the betta is what I previously had in the tank, but am now on a new adventure from a clean slate, starting all over again. The only thing the same, is the tank itself! sorry for any confusion..

 

[Iiriva]

Whoa, I wouldn't put ANY kind of fish in a tank that small! It's even illegal here where I live...

Actually, bigger tank is easier to maintain than small ones. Smallers are not easiers, since in smaller amount of water the changes are always more dramatical than it is in bigger aquariums. I'd suggest you get at least 100 liters for starters, it's easier to keep when a starter, you get better equipment for it, and you can get nice fish in it, too.

For 35 liter bucket I would put just shrimps and apple snails, not any fish.

In here you would get a fine for animal cruelty if an officer found out you had even one fish in a tank that is even a bit smaller than 40-45 liters...

 

[boabmac63]

Whoa, I wouldn't put ANY kind of fish in a tank that small! It's even illegal here where I live...

Actually, bigger tank is easier to maintain than small ones. Smallers are not easiers, since in smaller amount of water the changes are always more dramatical than it is in bigger aquariums. I'd suggest you get at least 100 liters for starters, it's easier to keep when a starter, you get better equipment for it, and you can get nice fish in it, too.

For 35 liter bucket I would put just shrimps and apple snails, not any fish.

In here you would get a fine for animal cruelty if an officer found out you had even one fish in a tank that is even a bit smaller than 40-45 liters...

Unlucky for u then i have 64 litre tank with about 15. 1 and a half inch fish in it

 

[minikarter]

Ummm yes, well, If less than 100L is a shock, I've a funny feeling you'll have a few more in no time at all!

Moving on, I would appreciate at least a few constructive answers to the original post.. anyone?

Oh and to add, I'm not a complete newbie, I've kept a betta before, and also had a much larger community tank including angels, tetras, gouramis, loaches, alsorts! So maintenance and ease of care aside as this is my new challenge, I'm really just looking for stocking and filter suggestions for the moment before I go out and actually hand money over.

 

[Iiriva]

Whoa, I wouldn't put ANY kind of fish in a tank that small! It's even illegal here where I live...

Actually, bigger tank is easier to maintain than small ones. Smallers are not easiers, since in smaller amount of water the changes are always more dramatical than it is in bigger aquariums. I'd suggest you get at least 100 liters for starters, it's easier to keep when a starter, you get better equipment for it, and you can get nice fish in it, too.

For 35 liter bucket I would put just shrimps and apple snails, not any fish.

In here you would get a fine for animal cruelty if an officer found out you had even one fish in a tank that is even a bit smaller than 40-45 liters...

Unlucky for u then i have 64 litre tank with about 15. 1 and a half inch fish in it

What's the attitude? I just said my opinion and what is illegal in here where I live. 63 liters is small, but ok if the fish are right size... Sheesh, what wrong with people nowadays... *rolls eyes*

And as to the original question, I'm not sure if there are external filter even made for tanks that small. Eheim aquaballs are great internal filters for small aquariums, they are even shrimp and baby fish safe.

Ahhah, Eheim liberty is a veery small external filter for tanks which are 40-60 liters. Could be a bit rought though. The externals usually go up from 60 liters, so it may be impossible to find an external one for your tank without it being too strong.

I would highly recommend Eheim Aquaball as an internal though!

 

[Blubble37]

i would reccomend something like a fluval u1/2... internal but discreet

 

[snake007]

I would suggest some Boraras brigittae or some endlers, No dwarf gourami, they need at least 15 Gallons.
I still think guppies need more room than that, I would get some shrimp, pygmy cories still need a bigger tank that that.
Perhaps some African Dwarf Frogs?
Or maybe even a betta?

 

[minikarter]

i would reccomend something like a fluval u1/2... internal but discreet

I'm disappointed if there really are no external filters in the uk that would be suitable for a smaller tank. I do have a U1, and a filter that came with the tank which I will use in the meantime.

I will be using this 35L tank, and I have no doubts in any way that it is being cruel to the fish that I intend on putting in it. Obviously I'm not going to be stupid about this, and I don't intend on having anything in it that will grow to any significant size. I would also love to have a much much larger tank, unfortunately, budget does not allow for me to buy a bigger flat with an extra room for it. .... yet

I do like endlers, and I was a tiny bit concerned gouramis might be pushing it.. what about honey gouramis? I have already discussed guppies with the OH and we've agree'd not to get those at all now.

If nothing else was suitable, then yes, I could always rekindle my love for bettas and have a shrimp or some pygmy corys for company.

 

[Iiriva]

Well, I found that suggested minimum for dwarf gouramis is 60 liters... A betta could go.

And of course 100 liters is too big for bettas, but better for any other fish.

How about few Boraras brigittae? They are pretty, and small, and the suggested minimum is 40 liters, so 35 could just and just do...

 

[snake007]

Well, I found that suggested minimum for dwarf gouramis is 60 liters... A betta could go.

And of course 100 liters is too big for bettas, but better for any other fish.

How about few Boraras brigittae? They are pretty, and small, and the suggested minimum is 40 liters, so 35 could just and just do...

How are 100 litres to big for bettas?

 

[Man of fish]

Well if you got 100 liters you could have a female betta house with 7-10 female bettas, but on your question I wouldn't do 2 dwarf goiramis because most shops only sell males and 2 males would kill each other so unless you somehow find a female I'd only do 1 male dg. The females are less colorful too, and you'd need 1 male to every 2 females.

 

[Iiriva]

Ok, how would I explain this in english...

Of course you can keep bettas in 100 liters, but I think it's a bit big for a male betta, when kept alone. You know, when there isn't anything else. In general, anything above 100 liters is better.

Ihme porukkaa täällä.

 

[minikarter]

OK. SO for the benefit of my girlfriend (who just wants pretty fish) and to also make sure there's no cruelty or possible fighting. What do people think of either of these 2 combinations:

1: 1 Dwarf Gourami + 2 Honey Gouramis

2: 1 Dwarf Gourami + 2 Guppies

Would either of those be acceptable? Men from all over the world will know women can be stubborn (especially when they don't know what they're talking about)(no offence to other women on here), and she insists on a Dwarf Gourami!