Freed My Shovelnose Cat Finally

[erk628]

i agree that it was bad for the fish, going from a nice filtered, heated, clean tank to a golf course pond.
but i mean, they could have done worse, like just flushing the poor guys, at least this person was trying to look out for the fish., even if they did make a bad decision where to free them.
there was no reason to blow up on them, i think its amazing how brave people are behind a keyboard.

well said!!

 

[Canis-Equus]

Sorry, id say the same in person (and those who know me, know that!).

Yeah sure its prolly really nice for THESE fish to be in a big lake.

The possible bad side effects for the resident fish, fish these fish could pass infections to, kill, wipe out........ less nice i think.

I think a bit of net forum blowing up is going to be infinately preferable to the trouble he COULD face if he was prosecuted for this!

 

[LisaLQ]

Man made pond....no food supply,.....I wonder if Zagggon is brave enough to take a trip out there every day to feed the poor bugger.

Nope, didn't think so. Idiot. Us nuts? Read back mate, it's easy to see who's a few brain cells short...

Incidentally, a kid in the US had the same idea about his giant african land snails. Oh they wont do any harm if I release them into the wild, he said. Several billion dollars worth of crop damage later, GALS are now banned in the US.

So while you've got rid of your little problem without having to get off your butt and do it properly, you've probably just ruined the fun of fishkeeping for other folks.

I hope someone on the forum in the US has the guts to call the SPCA on you, and get the poor thing out of there. Then maybe a quick IP trace, and hey ho - a big fine for you - never thought of that when you blabbed to show off your manly ways on here did you? Numpty.

 

[miss bunkface]

whew hostle.

its really not a big deal.
killing someone is a big deal, not letting a fish go in a pond.

im pretty sure they weren't "showing off" either.

they thought they did the right thing, and that should be good enough for all of you.
none of you are going to "get off your butts" and go get those fish either.
so no one is really doing anything, but yelling at this person.
this kind of thing, makes me want to leave forums.
and im sure it looks fabulous for other people who want to join.

 

[vancouver]

I'm wondering did you go to the golf course people and ask if you could release some fish into one of their ponds?

It just seems really odd to me that you thought the best option for your fish would be a pond at a golf course..

Did someone tell you that was a good idea?

You couldn't have expected people to give you great responses I don't think.. So I don't really know why you posted this topic in the first place.

 

[F.O.H]

ok look guys i am not saying what he did was right or wrong, i am notstanding up for him but what he did in HIS oppinion was right, wether he chooses to accept it or not but it has happend now and unless someone wishes to get a rod or a net and go and catch them(if still alive, which i doubt) its happend and there isn't much any of us can do about it, i also agree a dumb move but i am not the one who let it go.

 

[andywg]

Before everyone jumps on the band wagon let's clear up some thing about what the OP did:

They did NOT release the fish into the wild. It was placed into a man made pond that is not fed by any natural water. When it comes to affecting the natural eco system, how is this worse than putting into a tropical pond in their own garden?

Some people on this forum hear certain buzzwords (like released and pond) and instantly start frothing at the mouth without taking any time to objectively look at what has actually happened. The worst scenario here is that a number of livestock bought in by the golf course owners for their man made pond will get eaten by the TSN, hardly the destruction of a habitat and certainly not warranting of pious members calling the OP a numpty.

 

[cane76]

what is the worst thing that could happen from doing this?all i can think of is the catfish eats everything in the pond then dies its not nice but its hardly gonna have any impact on the enviroment is it?

 

[geo7x]

I have to agree with andy and cane.
It's a lake on a golf course. Its a lake on a golf course. Its a lake on a golf course.
Its exactly the same as making a pond in your back garden and putting a fish in it.

And I am sorry but the whole thing about the lake flooding and then the SN cat getting transported by the flood to another lake is ridiculous, just an excuse to flame someone, and a bad excuse at that.
I have a pond in my back garden, probably a lake not too far away, according to you my pond could flood and the fish could go to another lake and kill all the fish. See my point? its ridiculous. What if my house floods and all my fish in my tanks get washed away?
SO for goodness sake take a step back and look at whats really happening and shut up with the stupid excususes to flame.

 

[LisaLQ]

However much you guys want to defend him (god knows why) what he did was illegal. If his fish kills the other fish in that pond (if there are any in there), that's destruction of property. Why defend such stupid actions?

And even if I do get branded pious, I still think he's a numpty. Not only has he done something so stupid that his fish will no doubt die, and he could end up with some criminal charges of some description - he's wasted a perfectly good fish that someone would pay good money for - purely because he couldn't be arsed.

That makes him a numpty. Pious maybe, but at least I have some common sense.

 

[F.O.H]

im sure geo,andy and cane will agree with me we are not defending him at all we are just saying OUR oppinion on the matter.

And ur saying you have never done anything illegal and maybe he didnt know it was illegal.

now as i said in my last post i am not standing up for him i am just expressing my oppinion.

once again maybe he did cock up but jesus i think he gets what he has done, im sure it has been summed up in the first few posts it didnt need to take 40 posts.

 

[geo7x]

However much you guys want to defend him (god knows why) what he did was illegal. If his fish kills the other fish in that pond (if there are any in there), that's destruction of property. Why defend such stupid actions?

Maybe he asked permission, if you ask someone to graffiti on your wall its not their fault, and its not illegal. If you invite someone in to your house you cant accuse them of breaking in.
He's already said there are no fish in there anyway, certainly nothing of any value. You said "hows he going to eat" and then say "he might eat al the fish in there" and also people are saying "he might breed and the species might become pests like the GALS" and then at the same time people are saying "he gonna die", so what exactly is your opinion? anyway, there are no fish in there.

 

[fenwoman]

whew hostle.

its really not a big deal.
killing someone is a big deal, not letting a fish go in a pond.

im pretty sure they weren't "showing off" either.

they thought they did the right thing, and that should be good enough for all of you.
none of you are going to "get off your butts" and go get those fish either.
so no one is really doing anything, but yelling at this person.
this kind of thing, makes me want to leave forums.
and im sure it looks fabulous for other people who want to join.

HAd the OP done some research before he bought the fish, he would not have bought them. However since he DID buy them, he has an absolute reponsibility of duty towards them. Once he realised they were going to grow too large, he should have made efforts to relocate them humanely. Offerring to other fish keepers or zoos, aquariums etc.
Sure, there were 2 males so won't breed, but what if someone with some females decides to dump them in the same place?
Suppose they spawn and spawn gets caught on the legs of wading birds, or frogs, which then gets deposited in other waterways. That is how things spread. The OP and you seem to assume that nobody else ever will dump female fish in the same pond. This is a very narrow minded viewpoint and purely selfish indeed. Natural ecosystems are fragile things.
In Australia, ex pet cane toads, are decimating wildlife. Here in the UK ruddy ducks, agrresive crayfish and other species is endangering our native wildlife and all because one person dumped something and thought that nobody else would be doing the same.
Laws are made for the greater good of the majority. JKust because one person doesn't agree with the law, doesn't mean they should be broken.
Personally I think that a 70mph speed limit on the motorway is a daft law, but since it IS a law, I don't break it.
An alcoholic may think that drink driving laws are silly . A chap who has a skinful may firmly believe that he is fully competent to drive. The law knows different.
The reason people are getting annoyed is that the OP didn't research his species, then couldn't be bothered to find suitable homes for them, knowingly broke the law, and then refused to see that he did anything wrong, or that there could be serious repercussions and displayed no remorse when those repercussions were pointed out. I for one, do hope that he gets caught and fine because sadly, some people have to be forced to obey the laws we are all bound by and the only way to do it is to punish them.
Personally, here in the UK, I feel that the RSPCA would prosecute on animal abandonement laws and he would also be made to sign over his other fish and banned from keeping animals for many years.
And yes, I would say so to his face too.

what is the worst thing that could happen from doing this?all i can think of is the catfish eats everything in the pond then dies its not nice but its hardly gonna have any impact on the enviroment is it?

so what if another person releases some females too becauase they were too big for his tank? You then have them breeding. You h ave to look at the bigger picture.

 

[fenwoman]

ok look guys i am not saying what he did was right or wrong, i am notstanding up for him but what he did in HIS oppinion was right, wether he chooses to accept it or not but it has happend now and unless someone wishes to get a rod or a net and go and catch them(if still alive, which i doubt) its happend and there isn't much any of us can do about it, i also agree a dumb move but i am not the one who let it go.

The whole point is that hopefully he, and others who might do such a thing, will read the posts and understand why they shouldn't do such a thing. If all the angry condemnation has prevented another person doing it, it must be good. A forum is here to express opinions. He posted and was met with condemnation. Hopefully he understands why now and wouldn't do such a thing in future.
They are only words. Nobody has walloped him for doing it. Nobody has been physically hurt. Should he have been patted metaphorically on the back and praise and given a cyber hug, while everyone bit their tongue for fear of upsetting him?
I really hope the OP is big enough to accept he did the wrong thing , take the angry comments onm the chin and move on having learned something.

 

[nicelights]

The OP was very naive. It's not defensible, by the same logic previously expressed, I can go drink drive and say I thought it would be fine when I crash.

Very clever.