Favorite betta "Dumbass" is dead.

I guess not having kids may alter my view on this topic, but the way I see it.... this was the SECOND time something like this has happened! One time is an accident as to why she wasn't watching him. Second time maybe he should have been sitting on her lap the entire time. (BTW, in case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not a kid person either) :p
 
I'm with you, Elise! I've promised myself that the second I even begin to think having a baby might be a good idea, I will get my tubes tied to prevent myself from making that mistake. Don't get me wrong though, I like kids..... from a distance :look:. I honestly doubt I'll ever want them. I never have wanted a baby, even as a kid when every little girl wants a baby doll to take care of.
I played with dinosaurs.

Seriously, parenthood is a difficult job and I admire anyone who can tackle the responsibility and enjoy it, but kids and I don't mix. I'll be an unmarried, childless career woman... like Oprah :lol:

Yeah ok, enough hijacking. My bad :*)
 
I guess the reason I didn't take the fish out before cleaning the tank was....I didn't think of it! :/ Should it ever happen again though that sounds like a good idea! Oh and thank you everybody for your condolences! The good news so far is that the second gourami that I thought would die seems to be doing OK for now.
 
It seems there are several issues to be concerned with.

The host has a responsibility to protect the lives of the fish and the child. He also must try to be gracious while being a responsible community member--It takes a village to raise a child.

The guest, if reared well, will take responsibility for her and her child's behavior, regardless of the host's grasciousness. She will find a way to teach her child his responsibility for the consequences of misbehaving. It's called teaching with logical consequences where I work.

I believe children can be taught to be respectful of other's property and should be taught so early. It doesn't take a tissy fit to train a child. Respectful and responsible training will do it. Children must learn respect and be expected to behave so.

I am a little horrified at young men and women treating others' property without respect. It is mostly poor upbringing.

My companion dog, Whiskers, doesn't like children. They have thrown stones larger than him at him over the fence. When I tried to socialize him with the girls next door, they screamed and ran and acted in a way that confused him. He thought children were rabbits to be chased.

He is mature now and for the most part leaves them alone if they respect his space. I can tell a responsible Mum in public: She always approaches me with her child's hand in hers and asks "May my child pet your dog? He is so cute." There are even very young children that always ask first. It warms my heart, and I always complement them on their behavior.

Some children I have to watch because even though I have warned and told them "no" when I saw them approaching without supervision, they continue to sneak around me trying to sneak up on Whiskers. I can only assume that they don't trust or respect adults. These are the same type of children that would throw stones when I and their parents told them no.

Forgive me for my hijack, just thought there was a perspective not quite addressed.

I'm so sorry about dumbass, jaimoe, and happy for your gourami. :sad: :D
 
^^^^ :thumbs:

I totally agree.


That brings up a very good point. If the parent in question wasn't raised to be that way...you can't very well expect them to raise their child that way.

You can only teach what you were taught. Sad, but true.
 
I agreee with a lot of what you are saying jollysu. The problem these days lies in the fact that parents don't practice proper operant condition. Modeling from parents is very important as well as giving positive/negative reinforcement. Maybe we should give every new parent a book descirbing these things before leaving the hospital, even if they don't care or don't read it, it's at least a try at making things better. I know this thread has gotten way off topic, but I am a Social Work major, so this is right up my alley. :D
 
riogal_11 said:
Maybe we should give every new parent a book descirbing these things before leaving the hospital, even if they don't care or don't read it, it's at least a try at making things better.
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lol kinda like when people offer advice here and the person you offer it to totally ignoring it :lol:. :rofl:

Sorry, not implying that to you Rio....just the first thing that popped in my head when I read that (reflects on a another thread, in another section, where that was being discussed).
 
I'm with you riogal. I work with the product of unstuctured, unplanned, undisciplined, and irresponsible parenting. Most of the boys who come to us don't have any structure in their lives that prepares them for a civil life. They have been reared to spend their lives in an institution like their mothers &/or fathers. Their parents are children of children to the 10th generation. The most structure in their world is the gang and visiting hours. They have not been required to get up in the morning, go to bed at night, come to the table, respect authority, go to school...on and on...and neither were their parents.

I am not of course insinuating that the child in this case is at that level. Only with that tyke it would be good to require some responsibility.

Give the paper, riogal, but take time to read and explain it, because they can't read or reason with logic. Their lives are controlled by emotional rage, nursed and weened on anger, neglect, and abandonment.

My understanding is that the latest psych studies are in the effect on the brain development of neglected children. There are voids in the frontal cortex of children who have not been cuddled and comforted. These children are controlled not by reason but by instinct/the medulla oblongota.

As depressing as it is, as overwhelming as it is, I see a few dedicated people having an impact. I see a few young people take charge and responsibility. Nevertheless, we are no longer dealing at this level with Just Do It! choices. It is mental, physical, spiritual, medical.

Please forgive us for solving world problems in your thread, jaimoe.
 
I think I know which thread you are talking about SRC....... I was thinking the same thing about it......
jollysue- we seem to have a lot in common. Are you a social worker? I want to work with juvenile sex offenders at a corrections facility.
 
I am a childcare worker in an adolecsent group home affiliated with Youth For Christ. My BA is English w/a teaching emphisis and add on's in psyc, soc, philo, and hist. But my personal interest is ministry. I believe the best chance is in a heart change...a new world view...a God view.

I almost pm'ed you riogal. I'm getting more self concious taking over this thread all the time.

And so I continue :*) :p

Where are you studying? You've chosen a tough road, girl.
 
Synirr said:
I'm with you, Elise! I've promised myself that the second I even begin to think having a baby might be a good idea, I will get my tubes tied to prevent myself from making that mistake. Don't get me wrong though, I like kids..... from a distance :look:. I honestly doubt I'll ever want them. I never have wanted a baby, even as a kid when every little girl wants a baby doll to take care of.
I played with dinosaurs.

Seriously, parenthood is a difficult job and I admire anyone who can tackle the responsibility and enjoy it, but kids and I don't mix. I'll be an unmarried, childless career woman... like Oprah :lol:

Yeah ok, enough hijacking. My bad :*)
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Awesomeeeee I wish i had dinosaurs......

Ehhhhh I know im 16...and all >__> but i only want to have one kid and thats a boy.....so much easier to care for >__> other than that im going to umm.......hell no ill never do that to myself >__> ill just wont have no more kids
 

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