External Filters....need Some Questions Answered.

haha sorry can't help but laugh. so we conclude they all break? stuff it i'm off to buy 2 cheap filters then if they break outside the warrenty i don't care.

oh and a post is a personal view so i'd just assume that it is the persons personal opinion on what they have seen
 
Fights seem to be hard to avoid with Exturnal filter topics... Since I surgested it, I'll try get things back on topic by running through the filter's I've had and my experience with them, in order of what I've had...

Eheim Ecco. Constant parts failures. Replacements under warrenty hard to come by, but readily available if you want to pay for them. These however, are not build by Eheim, rather one of Eheim's sister companies, so can't realy use it as a representative sample for Eheim's...

Fluval 404. Noisy (could hear it at the opposit end of the hourse) flow dropped fast, needed constant maintance (weekly on a tank it should handle well according to the box, 335l with 8 Discus) and was a royal pain in the butt to prime, even before the priming handle bust. In the 6-8 months I ran it, it swallowed 3 new seal rings due to seaping after maintanance, even though I loobed up and ensured the ring diden't twist as I put it back on. It was retired after it started electric shocking me every time I placed my hands into the tank.

Rena XP2. Near silent and easy all round to use. Needed many new seals however, seaping after maintanance. This could be down to a lack of loob however, as the ring was hard to get out and loob up, so I did neglect it a little :/ May not be bad if you are on the ball with maintanance.

Tetratec EX1200 (X2). The only filter I've bought more than one of, no niggles thus far, cheap inlet and outlet sets asside :good:

Other people's fiters I've helped with.

Fluval 405. Main seal ring bust early on and soaked a mates floor. Seemed as aquard to work as my old 404.

Eheim Classic. Good little goer, bit of a faff to maintain comaired to most other filters, but comparable to Fluvals IMO for priming. Head can be hard to pull of if the taps are closed...

HTH some
Rabbut
 
lol@shaz - think you have the best idea

nice post Rab - thats what we needed in the begining!

apologies for getting personal - things became a lil heated
 
Even Rab who was not against you, has said what you wrote was not a great assumption!

Please quote me. I don't recall saying I thought Miss Wiggle was assuming the worst of all Fluvals. I just said that anybody who is doing would be making a bad assumption. This comment was actually made back to Jen about a comment I made in a different thread earlier in the week, that was perhapse assuming all people did have issues with Fluvals IMO, due to my own poor posting style on said topic...

All the best
 
sorts my filter issue out, does up to 1200ltrs £60 i'll have 2 please for when the first breaks. seriously tempted now lol
 
Fights seem to be hard to avoid with Exturnal filter topics... Since I surgested it, I'll try get things back on topic by running through the filter's I've had and my experience with them, in order of what I've had...

Eheim Ecco. Constant parts failures. Replacements under warrenty hard to come by, but readily available if you want to pay for them. These however, are not build by Eheim, rather one of Eheim's sister companies, so can't realy use it as a representative sample for Eheim's...

Fluval 404. Noisy (could hear it at the opposit end of the hourse) flow dropped fast, needed constant maintance (weekly on a tank it should handle well according to the box, 335l with 8 Discus) and was a royal pain in the butt to prime, even before the priming handle bust. In the 6-8 months I ran it, it swallowed 3 new seal rings due to seaping after maintanance, even though I loobed up and ensured the ring diden't twist as I put it back on. It was retired after it started electric shocking me every time I placed my hands into the tank.

Rena XP2. Near silent and easy all round to use. Needed many new seals however, seaping after maintanance. This could be down to a lack of loob however, as the ring was hard to get out and loob up, so I did neglect it a little :/ May not be bad if you are on the ball with maintanance.

Tetratec EX1200 (X2). The only filter I've bought more than one of, no niggles thus far, cheap inlet and outlet sets asside :good:

Other people's fiters I've helped with.

Fluval 405. Main seal ring bust early on and soaked a mates floor. Seemed as aquard to work as my old 404.

Eheim Classic. Good little goer, bit of a faff to maintain comaired to most other filters, but comparable to Fluvals IMO for priming. Head can be hard to pull of if the taps are closed...

HTH some
Rabbut


perfect rab just how it should have been handled 2 start with :)
 
Bloody hell!!! :blink:

Went off to do some shopping! Never expected an online brawl!!!

This is nearly worse than the bottle feeding V's breast feeding debate!! ha,ha! :lol:

Okay, look this is for you all, :flowers: now shake hands and make up and lets never speak of it again....lets draw a line.


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So, back to the topic in question....Thanks for all your input. :good:

I will go back and read over the topics & recommendations in detail now....I'm very interested in what everyone has to say.

Ok, back in a minute...I'm sure I'll have more questions.
 
Can I ask....the Eheim external filter you are referring to...I see a few.

Is it the Eheim Classic External Filter?

I see the professional heated one there too, but that would be a bit outside my budget.
 
'makes a jim carrey funny face' group hug everyone lol
 
Well, my Fluval 405 broke over the weekend after about 18 months. The internal clip that holds the propeller cover snapped. Not a huge failure as it still works, but still.

IMO, go with a larger filter. The size really depends on how much flow your fish can continue.
 
Thanks to every one involved in this thread for keeping me entertained all afternoon.Got no work done at all :lol:

On subject,i've only ever had an Eheim Classic (just over 3 years now,i think) and have had no probs with it at all.Can't comment either way on the other makes.

This is nearly worse than the bottle feeding V's breast feeding debate!! ha,ha! :lol:

Breast every time for me.........but i'm 41 :shifty: :hyper:
 
we only did it for you jim - we are all great friends really......lol!
 
Laz - i must admit, when i bought a large tank, i wanted overkill filtering, when looking around i found two that at the time seemed to suit the job. the large ehiem or the fx5, at the time, the ehiem was over twice the price 'not sure how they stack up nowadays', i decided to buy two fx5s.

my thought was this - on the face of it, it seems to be perfect - self prime, purges any air caught in the system every 24/hours and a monster flow rate that does stack up. having two of these monster filters, not only give me mineral water quality, but also having two gives me backup - should one fail, or whilst one is being cleaned out.

heres a vid:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLGa8d9L1SY...re=channel_page
 
Can I ask....the Eheim external filter you are referring to...I see a few.

Is it the Eheim Classic External Filter?

I see the professional heated one there too, but that would be a bit outside my budget.

Some people with classics have had them going for over 30 years. The early pros also have a lot of people using them without issues after long running times. I do hear that Eheim have been having issues with the temperature probes on their heated versions of filters, and they have pointed out themselves that the probes are un-reliable in hardwater areas and in saltwater tanks. Whether or not this know issue is now fixed is another issue, but it should be clearly advertised somewhere on their site if it is :nod:

Classics are the only true Eheims I have any experience with however...

All the best
Rabbut

EDIT for clarity...
 

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