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Mrs jflowers
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cool, do you have any suggestions for substrate? Could we just get bigger version of what we have as I like how it looks in the viv?
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not really...
I cant think of anything like that.You could always go with sand (NOT calci-sand). That always looks good.
Rough tiles with a bit of sand on top looks good....
grahamsokel
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The problem with wood chips or bark is they can swallow pices when they are catching insects and in turn this can cause an impaction
I disagree,Beardies dig in substrate and with the sharp claws they can tear the mat and be electricuted
In the wild beardies warm up from the sun so get the heat from above not from below
Using a heatmatt is fine, just to keep the temperatures up. it shouldnt be used as a main source of heat though, which it isnt.
I disagree,Beardies dig in substrate and with the sharp claws they can tear the mat and be electricuted
In the wild beardies warm up from the sun so get the heat from above not from below
The problem with wood chips or bark is they can swallow pices when they are catching insects and in turn this can cause an impaction
Using a heatmatt is fine, just to keep the temperatures up. it shouldnt be used as a main source of heat though, which it isnt.
I disagree,Beardies dig in substrate and with the sharp claws they can tear the mat and be electricuted
In the wild beardies warm up from the sun so get the heat from above not from below
stick the heatmat on the side of the viv lol.
grahamsokel
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Not safe
I would rehome all my beardies so that they where safe rather than put a heat mat into the vivs but thats just going on experiance i have picked up in the 30 years of keeping beardies
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Well imagine my shock when we came downstairs this morning... one of our beardies looks like he has been playing in coal! His beard has gone completely black. I have been assured this is because it is mating season. I hope that doesn't mean we end up with beardie eggs!!
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grahamsokel
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I dont need to because you dont use heat mats with beardies end of
Have you ever seen a beardie with a burn on its stomach from lying on a heat mat continuously? Its not a nice sight
grahamsokel
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So how many years and how many beardies have you kept?
seeing as I was keeping beardies long before you where even thought of and never had to use a heat mat I willl definatly never have to use one in the future
seeing as I was keeping beardies long before you where even thought of and never had to use a heat mat I willl definatly never have to use one in the future
fair enough, we all have our own opinions.
i'd just like to say that knowledge does not come with age
Saedcantas
Fishaholic
No need to always have the last word Esfa
-Heatmats just arent needed with beardies and as Graham has explained, there are some reasons specifically not to anyway
-Substrates are one of those awkwards topics where there isnt usually a straight answer. However in the case of *relatively* clumsy lunge feeders such a beardies, large particles such as beech chippings are definitely going to end in disaster.
If any substrate is to be used fine smooth sand is the best option, ensuring that if any is ingested with food items it is the most likely to pass through the gut without doing any damage (provided it is just small amounts).
-Dominance issues; I personally would say it is altogether possible to keep beardies together happily, provided it is approached in a suitable manner. Two babies beardies purchased together is an ideal situation for problems, you will have no idea what sex they are and therefore no idea of what kind of woe is about to land on your lap!
To clarify;
Male + Female - The male is likely to reach maturity before the female and potentially harrass her to try and mate, if he does and he then leaves her alone, you could be left with an undersized, underweight female trying to pass eggs before she's really ready. If she isnt up for it, you might find she stops eating or is suppressed by his dominance.
Male + Male - Either they will reach sexual maturity and refuse to share one anothers space (I visited a shop three days ago and witnessed exactly this, the dominant male was continuously harrassing, biting and wrestling the other for the entirity of the 3 hours I was there...) Or if you are super lucky they'll both be quite mellow chaps and be fine.
Female + Female - Almost the same as Male+Male, some girls can be hot headed and wont be friends either!
-Heatmats just arent needed with beardies and as Graham has explained, there are some reasons specifically not to anyway
-Substrates are one of those awkwards topics where there isnt usually a straight answer. However in the case of *relatively* clumsy lunge feeders such a beardies, large particles such as beech chippings are definitely going to end in disaster.
If any substrate is to be used fine smooth sand is the best option, ensuring that if any is ingested with food items it is the most likely to pass through the gut without doing any damage (provided it is just small amounts).
-Dominance issues; I personally would say it is altogether possible to keep beardies together happily, provided it is approached in a suitable manner. Two babies beardies purchased together is an ideal situation for problems, you will have no idea what sex they are and therefore no idea of what kind of woe is about to land on your lap!
To clarify;
Male + Female - The male is likely to reach maturity before the female and potentially harrass her to try and mate, if he does and he then leaves her alone, you could be left with an undersized, underweight female trying to pass eggs before she's really ready. If she isnt up for it, you might find she stops eating or is suppressed by his dominance.
Male + Male - Either they will reach sexual maturity and refuse to share one anothers space (I visited a shop three days ago and witnessed exactly this, the dominant male was continuously harrassing, biting and wrestling the other for the entirity of the 3 hours I was there...) Or if you are super lucky they'll both be quite mellow chaps and be fine.
Female + Female - Almost the same as Male+Male, some girls can be hot headed and wont be friends either!
Arnt needed? So in the winter and the temp is dropping down low, there's no need to add another heat source to keep the temps stable?
there is nothing wrong with using a heatmat with beardies, as long as you are sensible which you should be with any invert/rep anyway!
there is nothing wrong with using a heatmat with beardies, as long as you are sensible which you should be with any invert/rep anyway!
Saedcantas
Fishaholic
The majority of peoples houses probably fall to a minimum of 65F overnight even in Winter. My house is what I'd call *unusually* cold overnight and gets as low as 60F.
We know Beardies are adapted to live in arid environments, we also know that arid environments such as Australia's inland desert can during their winters drop as far as below freezing overnight. Deserts typically have a drastic temperature difference between the day and night as no cloud cover allows all of that heat to dissipate rapidly come nightfall, the animals that live there are adapted to cope with it or thrive in it.
Unless the ambient temperature of your house falls below 60F overnight frequently in Winter, there is no genuine need for additional heating
Point and case I hope
Lotte***
We know Beardies are adapted to live in arid environments, we also know that arid environments such as Australia's inland desert can during their winters drop as far as below freezing overnight. Deserts typically have a drastic temperature difference between the day and night as no cloud cover allows all of that heat to dissipate rapidly come nightfall, the animals that live there are adapted to cope with it or thrive in it.
Unless the ambient temperature of your house falls below 60F overnight frequently in Winter, there is no genuine need for additional heating
Point and case I hope
Lotte***
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