Disinfecting a Pen-Plex filter

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I want to use my bettas old pen-ex filter (has plastic cartridges) for my mom's tank until I can get her betta in its new 5 gallon in maybe 3 weeks. Hers is currently a 1.5. Her sponge isn't getting anything out. Problem is that my fish has popeye. I'll be treating him next week when I'm finally available the whole 6 days. But how do I best sanitize the base unit of the penn-plex filter? Boiling? Bleach solution of 1:9? Help appreciated!
 
Don't boil plastics. If they don't melt, they release toxic chemicals.

You can bleach plastics. Just wash or soak the items in straight bleach for 30 minutes, then rinse well with freshwater.

Don't bleach metal items because they rust.

*NB* Never use bleach in a closed room. Always try to use it outside where there is very good airflow.

NB* Wear safety glasses or a shield/ visor over your face and a respirator when using bleach. And wear rubber gloves and a plastic apron too.

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Depending on what caused the pop-eye in the fish, it might be contagious but might not. If an eye is injured, it can swell up and remain swollen for a few days to a week or more. As the fish heals the eye, the inflammation should go down.

If there is an infection in the eye, then medication might be required.

As a general rule, clean water and a bit of salt can heal most eye problems in fish.

Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate every day for 2 weeks.
make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it's added to the tank.

Add some salt, (see directions below).

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SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt) or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate (4 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will affect some plants and some snails. The lower dose rate (1-2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will not affect fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

When you first add salt, add the salt to a small bucket of tank water and dissolve the salt. Then slowly pour the salt water into the tank near the filter outlet. Add the salt over a couple of minutes.
 
Don't boil plastics. If they don't melt, they release toxic chemicals.

You can bleach plastics. Just wash or soak the items in straight bleach for 30 minutes, then rinse well with freshwater.

Don't bleach metal items because they rust.

*NB* Never use bleach in a closed room. Always try to use it outside where there is very good airflow.

NB* Wear safety glasses or a shield/ visor over your face and a respirator when using bleach. And wear rubber gloves and a plastic apron too.

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Depending on what caused the pop-eye in the fish, it might be contagious but might not. If an eye is injured, it can swell up and remain swollen for a few days to a week or more. As the fish heals the eye, the inflammation should go down.

If there is an infection in the eye, then medication might be required.

As a general rule, clean water and a bit of salt can heal most eye problems in fish.

Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate every day for 2 weeks.
make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it's added to the tank.

Add some salt, (see directions below).

-------------------
SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt) or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate (4 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will affect some plants and some snails. The lower dose rate (1-2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will not affect fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

When you first add salt, add the salt to a small bucket of tank water and dissolve the salt. Then slowly pour the salt water into the tank near the filter outlet. Add the salt over a couple of minutes.
I would LOVE to try the salt treatment. Sadly, I'm having abdominal surgery on the 7th and won't be able to do water changes. I can get my mom to do the normal ones but not huge daily ones, sadly. I got my betta this way back in January. I didn't know what Popeye was at the time. He's going blind... totally blind on the left (scales grew over the eye) and after a week away (I did a heavy feeding for two days prior to leaving) his good (but Pop-) eye is losing sight. He had a MUCH more difficult time finding food. I'm almost tempted to euthanize him. I have medicine to try... I can do 6 days of dosing every other day... be there every day of that. But salt like that... I would if I could! Believe me.
 
Don't boil plastics. If they don't melt, they release toxic chemicals.

You can bleach plastics. Just wash or soak the items in straight bleach for 30 minutes, then rinse well with freshwater.

Don't bleach metal items because they rust.

*NB* Never use bleach in a closed room. Always try to use it outside where there is very good airflow.

NB* Wear safety glasses or a shield/ visor over your face and a respirator when using bleach. And wear rubber gloves and a plastic apron too.

-------------------
Depending on what caused the pop-eye in the fish, it might be contagious but might not. If an eye is injured, it can swell up and remain swollen for a few days to a week or more. As the fish heals the eye, the inflammation should go down.

If there is an infection in the eye, then medication might be required.

As a general rule, clean water and a bit of salt can heal most eye problems in fish.

Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate every day for 2 weeks.
make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it's added to the tank.

Add some salt, (see directions below).

-------------------
SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt) or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate (4 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will affect some plants and some snails. The lower dose rate (1-2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will not affect fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

When you first add salt, add the salt to a small bucket of tank water and dissolve the salt. Then slowly pour the salt water into the tank near the filter outlet. Add the salt over a couple of minutes.
Also... When I was first researching caring for Popeye, someone suggested saltwater BATHS. I did this immediately as I had the epsom salts suggested and it was easy to do. If I'd realized how cheap the meds were I would have done it sooner. I assumed they'd be $20+ and stupidly didn't check. I'm on disability so $20 was just not in the cards that month. Other medical issues. When I found out the actual price recently I was pissed as heck at myself. Not usually so negligent about my pets.
 
you can't use melafix on bettas or gouramis, it causes issues with their air tubes
 
Just do a big water change and gravel clean, then add 1 heaped tablespoon of salt for every 20 litres of water. Leave the salt in the tank for 2 weeks and see if it helps.

If bettas get scales growing over their eyes, they have the dragonscale gene. This causes scales to grow over the eyes and make the fish blind. As long as the fish gets food, they can live like this.
 
You only want to add chemicals when you know what the problem is.

Kanaplex is Kanamycin, an antibiotic designed for people. It should only be used on known bacterial infections that have not responded to normal treatments.

Improper use and mis-use of antibiotics has lead to drug resistant bacteria that kill people, animals, birds, fish and reptiles.
 
Just do a big water change and gravel clean, then add 1 heaped tablespoon of salt for every 20 litres of water. Leave the salt in the tank for 2 weeks and see if it helps.

If bettas get scales growing over their eyes, they have the dragonscale gene. This causes scales to grow over the eyes and make the fish blind. As long as the fish gets food, they can live like this.
What do I do after 2 weeks?
 
stop using salt and do small water changes whenever you can to reduce the salt level.
 

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