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mhancock

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I've been keeping fish for many years, and have never experienced anything like what has happened this week. It is of course very upsetting.

My tank is 4 foot, with plenty of plants and an external filter. I introduced some clown loaches, but they were incredibly shy - much more than I would expect. They didn't even come out for food, but I was not too worried as there were plenty of snails for them to snack on. After a bit of reading, I ordered some floating plants to keep the glare of the lights (on a timer) down a bit, and that made little difference. I then switched the lights off altogether for a few days - by this point they'd been in the tank for 10 days or so.

I then found that one had died, then a couple of days later a few fish had died (cardinals). There was an oily layer on top of the water, which presumably was preventing oxygen getting in. I've never seen anything like it, but have read now how easy it is for oil to get into the water. I've no idea how, the only I can think of is sun lotion but that's a bit of a long shot. I also decided to check the temperature, which was only 24o - it turns out that the heater was calibrated wrong.

Stats:
N03- 25
N02 - 3
GH - 8
KH - 20
pH - 7.5
Cl2 - 0

I have now:
  • Done a 90% water change (thank goodness for Prime)
  • Installed TWO heaters, both set at 26o
  • Installed two air stones
Stats now:
N03- 0
N02 - 0
GH - 8
KH - 20
pH - 7.5
Cl2 -0

I'm presuming that there was a bit of cycling going on and will keep an eye on that, and treat the tank as a brand new one in terms of adding stock back. Of course I should have checked stats when the first fish died - I'd just put that down to the stress of being changed tanks.

There is a small pleco, and three tetras plus maybe two clowns that were still alive when I did the water change (but I cannot now see).

Be grateful for any advice - and wondering if there is anywhere else that the oil could have come from?
 
I find Prime leaves an oily look to the water.
What are your ammonia readings?
 
It happened me once that I had my hand and arm in the tank & totally forgot I'd suntan lotion on. I didn't most any fish but I could see how that would cause fish death. Keep an eye on the water now you've done a big change.
 
How many loaches? They will hide if they are not in a big enough group (at least 5, preferably more), and if they are they will still often hide - or play dead :D.
They are incredibly sensitive to water quality, a nitrate reading of 25 suggests you need to to bigger water changes.

Before you rush out and need more an 8' tank is recommended for this species.
 
It happened me once that I had my hand and arm in the tank & totally forgot I'd suntan lotion on. I didn't most any fish but I could see how that would cause fish death. Keep an eye on the water now you've done a big change.

Indeed - stats now:
NO3 - 0
NO2 - 2
GH - 8
KH - 15
pH - 8.4 (maybe more, that's as high as the colour chart goes)
Cl2 - 0

Is that too Alkaline?
 
How many loaches? They will hide if they are not in a big enough group (at least 5, preferably more), and if they are they will still often hide - or play dead :D.
They are incredibly sensitive to water quality, a nitrate reading of 25 suggests you need to to bigger water changes.

Before you rush out and need more an 8' tank is recommended for this species.

There were 5, which I've replaced - the new ones are behaving much more normally. Sometimes they are hiding, sometimes that are doing the up and down a corner of the tank thing, sometimes they play dead. They are tiny at the moment, but I am aware that a bigger tank will be needed at some point.

I also got some absolutely tiny cardinal tetras - tiny splashes of colour, they are great. I wouldn't normally get so many fish at once, but as they are so small the jump in ammonia should be OK for the filtration - it seems to be.
 
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The new thermometers seem to be heating to 27o, I presume that's a good temperature with loaches in there?
 
I've made three baby cardinals die since raising the temperature, is 30o too hot for them?

Am doing a big water change as NO2 beginning to show on the test strip.
 
I've just tried the tetra app, on some sticks I was given, and this data was after the 80% water change.

The strips are in date, so I'm concerned about the NO2:

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