Cuv-118 Sterilizer And Aquamanta Efx 1000 Issue

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Hey guys
 
Got me a bit of an issue and my half asleep brain cannot figure it out. Recently, I purchased an APS CUV-118 UV Sterilizer ready for when my new tank gets set up (when I can be bothered to finish building the cabinet) but after opening its packaging, I noticed an issue. The inlet/outlets are far to big to attach to the hosing of my EFX 1000 and I'm trying to figure out what I need to buy to remedy this issue. I know I should have gotten a smaller UV Sterilizer but its too late now and I hate returning stuff when its my fault. I was expecting something five times smaller when I purchased it. I never realised the size of the things. The smallest part of the inlet/outlet is 19mm and I think the hosing of the EFX 1000 is roughly 16mm and is not flexible enough to stretch over the adapter.
 
Any ideas?
 
Be4st
 
Boil the ends of the pipes? Normally allows you to stretch the hose a bit.
 
Most UV here are connected to filters.....many canisters have them built in
 
I would try putting the filter tubes in boiling water to soften them up, they then may be persuaded to go where needed
 
I strongly suggest you read the link I provided. Most people who know what they are doing with UV do not buy ones that come with filters and rarely use a filter to power them. Moreso than other equipment, you need to do some homework to use UV effectively. You need to understand dwell time, turnover, distance between the water and the bulb, etc. Let me leave you with a quote from that site I linked above:
 
 
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I would be aware of otherwise good to excellent Pond Filters such as the SunSun Pressurized Pond Filter and many others such as Cyprios, Clear Stream, & Tetras.
As well as some new Aquarium Canister filters that come with built in UV Sterilizers in the top (such as the Grech, SunSun, and related canister filters).


These are rarely as effective as a separate UV unit for these reasons;
  • Flow rate is often too fast for proper contact/exposure and rated wattage to generate the correct temperature around the bulb.
  • The water in these style units is not contained in a small space around the UVC bulb (less than 3 mm) rather the flow is in a large area around the bulb which is generally not adequate for good UVC exposure/ dwell time.
  • Many pressurized pond filters and aquarium canister filters are not 100% in their internal flow patterns, meaning a certain percentage of water that passes through the filter is never even routed next to the UVC lamp, UNLIKE a separate UV Sterilizer!
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TwoTankAmin said:
I strongly suggest you read the link I provided. Most people who know what they are doing with UV do not buy ones that come with filters and rarely use a filter to power them. Moreso than other equipment, you need to do some homework to use UV effectively. You need to understand dwell time, turnover, distance between the water and the bulb, etc. Let me leave you with a quote from that site I linked above:
I had a glance over the link you posted and it has many good points however, half of it goes straight over my head and I am having trouble understanding some of it.
 
The UV unit I have is for a much larger tank but I am hoping I can still use it. I am stuck on what pump I would need to buy to feed it effectively and whether of not I leave it as a standalone unit or I connect it to the canister filter I have with the pump helping feed it (doesn't seem like a good idea to me though).
 
I have a 160L tank (42.2 US Gal) and the UV unit is 18w and for a 340L/90 US Gal with a 2500 L/H through-flow. From what I understand, you can't overdose with UV when it comes to sterilization but if I drop the flow down, will the bulb crack or unit overheat as there isn't enough water going through it? For stats on the UV Sterilizer go here: http://www.allpondsolutions.co.uk/18w-pond-aquarium-uv-steriliser.html
 
Well you are correct about the too powerful part. It is fine to be too much but not to be too little.
 
But here is the math for your tank. Start with turn over rates. you need 1.5 times an hour for level 2 and 3-4 times and hour for level 3. So for your tank of 42 gals you need a flow rate of either about 65 gph for level 2 and between 125 and 170 gph for level 3.
 
Now given that level 2 wants a flow rate through the unit of 20-30 gph and levels 3 wants under 8 gph, the next math determines how many watts the unit one needs should be at the very least. In your case that would be:
 
Level 2- 65 gph means 2-3 watts and Level 3 is between 125 and 170 gph so a min UV wattage is betweenax rate of 16 and 21 watts. These numbers are calculated by dividing the turnover rate needed by the gph for any given sterilization level.
 
65/20-30 gph = between 3 and 2 watts- since the smallest usually one can find is 5 watts, this would work. But if you want the max. killing power you are at 125-170/8 gph or less and this works out to 125/8 = 15.6 (16 w) to 170/8 = 21.25 (21 w).
 
Now in your case your filter will push a max of 1000 lph but that is only if the head is 0 (which it never is) and the filter media is not very clogged or even in it. At a head of 1.5 meters your filter moves 0 water. So lets work with your tank at 40 gals. (likely it is even a bit less allowing for decor etc.), and a flow rate out of your filter more like 700 lph. (about 185 gph).
 
Your needed turnover rates are:
Level 2- 40 x 1.5 = 60 gph
Level 3- 40 x 3 to 4 = 120 to 160 gph.
 
Now, to figure the needed UV strengths based the the flow rate and thus dwell time (how long the wtaer is inside the ubit and exposed to the UV light):
Level 2- 60 gph/20-30 gph = 3 - 2w
Level 3- 120 to 160 gph/8 (or less) = 15 - 20 watts.
 
Now if one increases the flow rate, the wattage needed changes. But in your case you have too large a unit needed for level 2 but OK for level 3. What this means is that you can be OK using your unit to achieve level 2, you are much stronger than that. However, if you wanted to go to level 3, then the flow rate is a bit on the high side. At 18 watts you are in the middle of the desired level 3 range at 160 gph. At your gph you may not quite achieve level.
 
Your 18 watt unit compensates for the higher flow rate and hence lower dwell time because it is stronger than needed
 
All of the other stuff in that article gets more complicated. But what it boils down to is this. To have effective UV requires a quality unit in terms of the water distance from the bulb and the type of UV bulb a unit uses. This can all be solved by simply using the brands suggested in the article. The other issue is bulb life and UV unit cleaning. If the quartz sleeve inside gets dirty, light is blocked, if the bulb runs for 6 months, it loses effectiveness and needs to be replaced. At this time you can clean the unit.
 
It is rare a UV unit needs to be run 24/7 especially once a pond or tank is up and running in a stable fashion. The fewer hours a day or week it needs to be run, the longer it will last. One note, do not run a UV unit during the initial start of cycling especially when seeding a tank with bottled bacteria or squeezing/rinsing out media from an established filter into the new tank. The bacteria take a bit of time to get out of the water and attached to the right places. Running a UV during this period will kill them. Once they attach in a day or two you can turn it on.
 
Finally, i can ell you I have a Terminator 5 watt unit i got from the site with the article. it was my 2nd choice. I wanted the next model up, but it was not in stock and the next model up after than was way overkill. I mostly have run that 5w unit on a 29 gal. tank with a powerhead rated at 106 gph. The have since upped their min wattage from 5 to 7.
 
TwoTankAmin said:
I strongly suggest you read the link I provided. Most people who know what they are doing with UV do not buy ones that come with filters and rarely use a filter to power them. Moreso than other equipment, you need to do some homework to use UV effectively. You need to understand dwell time, turnover, distance between the water and the bulb, etc. Let me leave you with a quote from that site I linked above:
 
 
Nice veiled insult there lol

I will go with what is done in my country though, i have seen great success with filter driven UV.

Others can make up their own minds
 
Alasse- did you at least read any of that link? It explains quite clearly why many of the UV sterilizers out there are not so hot and why. It explains all of the things it takes to make a UV effective. But I do not understand the point of your stating that? Why does it even matter how its done in Australia since the OP isn't even from there. And just because thats how most do it there, that doesn't make it rthe right way.
 
If you want to attach your smaller hose to larger ones you will need an adapter. Heating and stretching are not the best solution here. I think this might be what you need? http://www.gavsgrow.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_86_128&products_id=735&zenid=674b911019efa53db170228a7eef8bc9
 
And its available in the UK
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I didnt read it as i wasnt really interested in it. As stated i have seen successes using them on filters so am happy to go with that. Practice outvotes theory for me. And it matters how its done here because i live here lol.
 

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