Cory I.d Please

For once im gonna have to disagree frank :(, all the pics of the C. stenocephalus ive seen dont seem to have so much of a darkening to the body nor have the little dotty/spiity mark things on the tail, i do think now i have two different species which when i got i thought were all the same. will try get some better pics tomorrow and hopefully it may be easier to ID
Hi. I never claim to be infallible. No matter what you decide the fish is, you'll never really know. It could be one of close to a dozen species, but I have kept the fish and would be hard-pressed to change my mind. - Frank


Not all questioning your ability m8, but i trawlled through god knows how many pages now of C. stenocephalus and not one ive found has the marking on the tail... they pretty much all seem to have no markings whatsoever and thats basically the only basis of me saying thats not what they are... but as i mentioned i could well be wrong and you would know better than me... i havent fully dismissed you identification but im still open to suggestion of what IT could possibly be.


BTW have you got oneof them nice clear pics you always put up of a C. stenocephalus that may help ME that little better to confirm if it actually is what you think it is.

Cheers for the time in answering anyways m8 :)

jen
 
I bought 12 wild caught of these as Corydoras septentrionalis but the colouring is so variable.one day they look like long nose metae the next as septentrionalis doesen't help much but i thought i'd chip in
 
I bought 12 wild caught of these as Corydoras septentrionalis but the colouring is so variable.one day they look like long nose metae the next as septentrionalis doesen't help much but i thought i'd chip in


Any chance of a pic of yours m8, still not really a close enough match for my liking, colouration throughout the body isnt consistant and as far as most pics go septentrionalis have a black or black mark on there dorsal fin.
 
I bought 12 wild caught of these as Corydoras septentrionalis but the colouring is so variable.one day they look like long nose metae the next as septentrionalis doesen't help much but i thought i'd chip in


Any chance of a pic of yours m8, still not really a close enough match for my liking, colouration throughout the body isnt consistant and as far as most pics go septentrionalis have a black or black mark on there dorsal fin.
OK, Shoot me now. I actually said C. steno? Yes, could very well C. septen. Again, extremely variable and you will find them with and without the blotch as they come and go based on the age, health, conditioning, lighting, water parameters. and even temperature, gravel and tankmates.

You are searching for absolutes, where there are none. The term "extremely variable" means just that. In any population you will find individual specimens that look like they are a different specie, altogether, when in fact they are the same. If you search the web you will just as many pics without the dorsal blotch as with. If you use that as a determining factor in your ID process, you are wasting your time.

If you find a third rictal barbel, they are indeed C. septentrionalis. If not, enjoy your quest for a "positive ID. (smile). I can't be of any help to you, there. Unless you know where the fish was collected, you are just making a guess. Nothing more, nothing less. - Frank
 
I bought 12 wild caught of these as Corydoras septentrionalis but the colouring is so variable.one day they look like long nose metae the next as septentrionalis doesen't help much but i thought i'd chip in


Any chance of a pic of yours m8, still not really a close enough match for my liking, colouration throughout the body isnt consistant and as far as most pics go septentrionalis have a black or black mark on there dorsal fin.
OK, Shoot me now. I actually said C. steno? Yes, could very well C. septen. Again, extremely variable and you will find them with and without the blotch as they come and go based on the age, health, conditioning, lighting, water parameters. and even temperature, gravel and tankmates.

You are searching for absolutes, where there are none. The term "extremely variable" means just that. In any population you will find individual specimens that look like they are a different specie, altogether, when in fact they are the same. If you search the web you will just as many pics without the dorsal blotch as with. If you use that as a determining factor in your ID process, you are wasting your time.

If you find a third rictal barbel, they are indeed C. septentrionalis. If not, enjoy your quest for a "positive ID. (smile). I can't be of any help to you, there. Unless you know where the fish was collected, you are just making a guess. Nothing more, nothing less. - Frank


Yeh thanks for that frank!!!, an absolute no, best and most accurate ID yes... would like to get some tank friends for them and as you quite well know alot of cory's dont mix and wont school... hence the slight more need for a postive ID. but no matter ill try find some locally to match

thanks all for your help :)

jen
 
Dont know if this pics helps any better?

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The one with the triangular body blotch is as clos to C. septentrionalis as you are likely to get, the other one with the black dorsal I would favor as C. simulatus.

Ian
 
The one with the triangular body blotch is as clos to C. septentrionalis as you are likely to get, the other one with the black dorsal I would favor as C. simulatus.

Ian


Thankyou my good man, had an idea the single one maybe simulatus, the other 2 was the problem ones lol, i appolgise frank and never doubt you again :p

Any idea where to get some more of both please? uk based :)
 

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