Sprizmo
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So I have managed to order the ammonia and that should be here tomorrow/Saturday so it looks like the water can go in Saturday for the leak test. Now need to sort out substrate and plants then good to go!
Yeah I like to know more than I need to know before I start anything so happy I have learnt so much already which is great and down to the people on this forum.I like this thread, because it's full of stuff I would like to have known when I started. Those of us who have enjoyed this hobby for a long time can develop an overview of what does and doesn't work.
I think we start by seeing fish as commodities, and hopefully we quickly realize they are living creatures with natural histories that go back to long before aquarium stores existed. When I had hard water, I thought I was really good keeping softwater tetras for 3-4 years. Now, with soft tapwater, if they don't make 7 I'm trying to see what's wrong. It's never one size fits all in nature, but soooo many hobbyists believe all fish adapt to all water. There's a myth that they adapt to radically different conditions than they spent tens of thousands of years in over the few years they've been farm bred. It's truer that we've accepted them living shorter lives because it's convenient to think that way.
A glowlight tetra comes from slightly harder water than a cardinal, and lives very differently than a piranha. Forget the all tetras are the same to keep bs. They aren't divided into species for nothing, and each one has to be learned and well treated for what it is.
It's like plants, too. I have a stone thumb. I know my limits. I research plants and only buy the easy ones. A lot of stores sell hard to get started cuttings, or land plants that survive temporary flooding (and so, die soon in tanks). The best work around is to take a look before you go to the store, make a list of what you think you can handle, and then go hunting.
I always try to look up where in the world a fish comes from. Then I check a map. Coastal? Chances are it'll like harder water, so if I have that from the tap, I look up more on the fish.
In time, you'll learn to adjust water to the fish. It's easy if you start with softwater, and really difficult and more expensive if you start with hard. But forget that when you're starting - pick fish that will thrive in what's easiest for you.
If you are planting the tank, as long as there are lots of fast growing plants, you don't need to add ammonia. Plants take up ammonia faster than bacteria and they don't turn it into nitrite. If there are enough plants, they will remove all the ammonia made by a sensibly stocked tank.So I have managed to order the ammonia and that should be here tomorrow/Saturday so it looks like the water can go in Saturday for the leak test. Now need to sort out substrate and plants then good to go!
Ah okay.If you are planting the tank, as long as there are lots of fast growing plants, you don't need to add ammonia. Plants take up ammonia faster than bacteria and they don't turn it into nitrite. If there are enough plants, they will remove all the ammonia made by a sensibly stocked tank.
However, if you plan just a few slow growing plants it is better to do a fishless cycle with ammonia then plant the tank after it is complete. Because plants take up ammonia, the cycle won't progress according to the method on here if they are planted during the cycle.
Is that 110 mg/l calcium? If that is what you mean, it converts to 15 dH and 275 ppm which, as you say, is hard water. I'm afraid it's too hard for all the fish on your list, not just the neons.CA 110mg/l
Hi,
Here's a snip from the South Eastern Water company. First column max, second column mean, third column min. Clown Lurch is right the calcium is horrendous around here.
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What are the options? I get some water in (expensive?)
Thanks for the great reply.
Dave