Coldwater Fish Aren't 'other Pets'!

[PaulEbs]

Hey,

The TFF forums work superbly, you can get what info you need on what species of fish, quite easily, and everyone is happy and willing to help.. basically, it's top notch.

However, I have been trying to set up a coldwater aquarium recently, and noticed that to get info in the right forum for fancies and goldies etc, I have to go to 'other pets' - 'coldwater etc etc'.

In my opinion.. coldwater fish, e.g fancies n goldies, should be included in a sub-directory that is about fish, and not 'other pets'. I understand that the admin, and moderators of this board have worked hard to create such a flowing and intelligent community of hobbyists. but i don't count goldies as 'other pets' in a fish forum.

Just a thought..

EDIT: plus.. goldfish and fancies, koi etc originate from China, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is in the Tropics, meaning these fish are actually Tropical fish! All I'm saying is it would be good to have a goldfish, fancy and koi section in the tropical area..

 

[PaulEbs]

..bump..

 

[OohFeeshy]

plus.. goldfish and fancies, koi etc originate from China, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is in the Tropics, meaning these fish are actually Tropical fish!

But they're not, they're coldwater.

So they don't belong in the Tropical area- as neither do marines, inverts etc. There's a seperate forum, and thats good enough.

 

[The-Wolf]

although goldfish, koi etc do come from china etc
they are bred from carp that are found high up in mountain streams and pools therefor they are coldwater, one could argue sub-tropical but that is still a very debated topic.

 

[PaulEbs]

but to put them in 'Other pets' just seems wrong to me?! as this is a forum about aquarium fish???

 

[Kairi]

it's called "tropical" fish forums....

 

[Iron Man]

I agree. I think that is part of the point. Its not just a "tropical" forum, it is a tropical "fish" forum. Goldfish are fish too, not "other pets". They could make "cold water fish" its own category, since goldfish are certainly not the only coldwater fish in the world. There are many other types of coldwater fish, including saltwater.

I totally agree with the original post. You hate to criticize such a terrific forum, yet there that is sticking out like a sore thumb.

 

[PaulEbs]

Thank you, that is exactly what I'm trying to say

I think a coldwater category would be beneficial.

'OohFeeshy': Fancies are kept in 'tropical' conditions. The term 'coldwater' is used just to make things easier IMO. So that all strands of goldfish under the sun are called coldwater. They are still technically 'tropical' fish!

What would be the harm in having one more category?

although goldfish, koi etc do come from china etc
they are bred from carp that are found high up in mountain streams and pools therefor they are coldwater, one could argue sub-tropical but that is still a very debated topic.

They might have been bred from carp who live in mountain streams etc...

..But you wouldn't find a fantail fancy swimming upstream! They have been captively bred for hundreds of years to produce todays strains, meaning their habitat, water conditions, size etc has all changed too!

They are now considered 'tropical fish' by many books and websites I have come across in the past.

Tell me... what are your reasons Against this idea? Why not?

 

[geo7x]

does it really make much difference to anyone? a coldwater forum bit still exists and having it under 'other pets' is no inconvenience to anyone, granted theyre not 'other pets' really, but moving it would be more trouble than its worth. If you actually want something done about it then i would post in the announcements and suggestions forum

 

[debiasir]

im with geo7x there is still a section for goldfish so who cares what section its shown under after all its only a heading.

 

[PaulEbs]

I understand what your saying, but I think you are completely missing the point..

..Fancy goldfish aren't actually 'coldwater or pond fish' as the forum title suggests. They live in temperatures above 20 degrees C, and have been bred and bred and bred until they do, pretty much classify as 'tropical fish'.

I am not talking about standard goldies and sticklebacks etc that can go in your pond.. I'm talking about the fancy strains that have to be in an aquarium, or they'd just die.

 

[OohFeeshy]

Goodness... Then post about fancy goldfish in the Characins and Cyprinds section if you're that bothered about it. Or ion the hybrids section, considering how viley mutated most of them are...

 

[geo7x]

..Fancy goldfish aren't actually 'coldwater or pond fish' as the forum title suggests. They live in temperatures above 20 degrees C, and have been bred and bred and bred until they do, pretty much classify as 'tropical fish'.

well nowhere in the coldwater section does it say 'post fancies here' it just says 'coldwater fish and ponds' so if youre that obsessed with your little theory then as Oofeeshy said go ahead and post fancies wherever you want. Personally i just think youre being a bit picky TBH

 

[Qays]

Its fine where it is. Whats your problem with it?

 

[PaulEbs]

Sorry I've ruffled your feathers!

My main point was just that goldfish were summarised in a category called 'other pets', and this seemed a little odd to me as this is a forum about fish. But nevermind, your right, this forum works well as it is.