Cichlid Juggling

[OscarWilde]

Hello all

Just taken delivery of a beutiful Severum (6"), JD (3") and 2 Silver Dollars (5").

I've added the SD's to my 80G along with my Oscar (5") and Green Terror (5").

Obviously I cant' leave the JD in with my Kribs, Platys and the Severum in the 55G so will need to move him to the 80G at some point.

How big do people thing he will need to be before I can move him in to the big tank (i.e. hold his own against the Oscar and GT)?

Many thanks.

 

[jb12288]

I would say now providing you have good hiding places

 

[bitteraspects]

your "big tank" is overstocked as it is. the oscar will need the 80g to himself, due to their size. add a full grown GT to that, and youre looking at bioload problems already. any further overstocking of this tank will only add to the problems. not to say it cant be done, but its not a good idea

 

[OscarWilde]

your "big tank" is overstocked as it is. the oscar will need the 80g to himself, due to their size. add a full grown GT to that, and youre looking at bioload problems already. any further overstocking of this tank will only add to the problems. not to say it cant be done, but its not a good idea

Thanks for the reply. I'm afraid I don't agree with you assesment of the stocking. 55G is the generally agreed minimum for a single Oscar and for better or worse some people get away with smaller than that. Where on earth did you get 80G from?

The tank has a large 2500 lph filtration and the stats are spot on plus Im doing weekly 30% Water changes. I've been keeping Oscars for along time and am not worried about bioload.

I would say now providing you have good hiding places

Thanks, there are plenty of hiding spots/territorys in the tank. I'll look at moving him in soon

 

[bitteraspects]

are you joking? do you have any idea how big these fish get?
a minimum 75g (or 90g) footprint is needed for a full grown oscar. please research these fish before you try to overstock them.

 

[jb12288]

Bitteraspects is right on the overstocked part. Having three fish that grow 10" plus is overstocking, but with good filtration the bio load may not be a problem, it is the dimensions of the tank you have to worry about.

 

[OscarWilde]

are you joking? do you have any idea how big these fish get?
a minimum 75g (or 90g) footprint is needed for a full grown oscar. please research these fish before you try to overstock them.

I'm not going to get in to a debate or an disagreement about this. 90G is a great and ideal size for single Oscar but Im sure you will admit that it's nowhere near the minimum suitable. The people who's opinions I care about know that I would not mistreat the fish so Im not going to my setup.

please research these fish before you try to overstock them.

For the record you have an incredibly patronising manner. I hope you don't talk to new members like that.

Bitteraspects is right on the overstocked part. Having three fish that grow 10" plus is overstocking, but with good filtration the bio load may not be a problem, it is the dimensions of the tank you have to worry about.

18" X 18" X 48".

 

[shroob]

are you joking? do you have any idea how big these fish get?
a minimum 75g (or 90g) footprint is needed for a full grown oscar. please research these fish before you try to overstock them.

I'm not going to get in to a debate or an disagreement about this. 90G is a great and ideal size for single Oscar but Im sure you will admit that it's nowhere near the minimum suitable. The people who's opinions I care about know that I would not mistreat the fish so Im not going to my setup.

please research these fish before you try to overstock them.

For the record you have an incredibly patronising manner. I hope you don't talk to new members like that.


[quote post='2312260' date='Mar 18 2009, 12:37 PM']Bitteraspects is right on the overstocked part. Having three fish that grow 10" plus is overstocking, but with good filtration the bio load may not be a problem, it is the dimensions of the tank you have to worry about.

18" X 18" X 48".
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Those dimensions give 255 litres, or 67 US gallons. I wouldn't keep an oscar, GT and JD in that tank, I can see problems along the line with aggression, and I think you'll have to step up the water changes.

 

[bitteraspects]

Or to put it simply. Get a bigger tank or rehome the fish you are not able to properly accommodate.

55 IS ABSOLUTELY too small for a single oscar. And 75 IS ABSOLUTELY the minimum sized tank for a full grown oscar, based on size and bioload. And the tank you have, does not meet that requirement at a mere 67g. Besides aggression issues as stated above, you will have major bio load problems. This is why its suggested you research the fish before you buy them, so you can make sure you have adequate space, filtration, heat, food, water parameters, ect.

 

[OscarWilde]

Those dimensions give 255 litres, or 67 US gallons. I wouldn't keep an oscar, GT and JD in that tank, I can see problems along the line with aggression, and I think you'll have to step up the water changes.

Oops. Got the wrong its 300 litres anyway (Jewel Rio 300) so 67 "real" Gallons or 80 USG.

Or to put it simply. Get a bigger tank or rehome the fish you are not able to properly accommodate.

55 IS ABSOLUTELY too small for a single oscar. And 75 IS ABSOLUTELY the minimum sized tank for a full grown oscar, based on size and bioload. And the tank you have, does not meet that requirement at a mere 67g. Besides aggression issues as stated above, you will have major bio load problems. This is why its suggested you research the fish before you buy them, so you can make sure you have adequate space, filtration, heat, food, water parameters, ect.

OK, lets agree to disagree. Cheers.