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Chloromine t

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I purchased some boesmani a few weeks ago and developed cotton mouth with in a week of getting them and now 1 has a saddle back. So I'm guessing it's most likely columnaris or a mixture of bacterial and fungal infection. Any way I had the same symptoms maybe 10 years ago and a liquid chloromine t product by nt labs for aquarium use cured the issue. I can't seem to find the product in liquid form only powdered form which is going to be a pig to use and a waste as it treats 6000 liters. Does anyone know if there is an alternative product suitable for aquarium use.
Thanks
 
Need pictures of the fish so we can confirm the problem.

New rainbowfish often get white lips for a few weeks after being added to a new tank. This is bruising (fat lip) from swimming into things (like clean glass) and normally goes down by itself after a few weeks.

I used salt for most rainbowfish issues.

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SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), swimming pool salt, or any non iodised salt (sodium chloride) to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres (5 gallons) of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

If you only have livebearers (guppies, platies, swordtails, mollies), goldfish or rainbowfish in the tank you can double that dose rate, so you would add 2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres and if there is no improvement after 48 hours, then increase it so there is a total of 4 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria but the higher dose rate (4 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will affect some plants and some snails. The lower dose rate (1-2 heaped tablespoons per 20 litres) will not affect fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

When you first add salt, add the salt to a small bucket of tank water and dissolve the salt. Then slowly pour the salt water into the tank near the filter outlet. Add the salt over a couple of minutes.
 
Hi, thanks for getting back to me. The issue I have is that it's in a planted tank, I know that rainbows can have white lips that's why I left without treatment initially but it's becoming more eroded and and flakey it's only happening with one batch of rainbow fish, the males. I bought 2 batches from 2 separate stores as one only had females and the second only had males. The rainbow fish aren't photogenic, they move far too quickly and too much to get a clear image. I've had this same issue in a tank previously years ago with livebearers which heavily salting didn't cure. Once they're saddle backed there's not much time to act. My thoughts were that it could either be some sort of mouth rot and costia with a secondary fungal or bacterial infection as that combination could display similar visual symptoms or it's columnaris. I don't think we can assume a specific disease by visual symptoms, I know chloromine t is an excellent all around, cure all medication but I can't find an aquarist friendly form only pond use. All I'm really after is whether someone knew there was an easier to dose form that doesn't need weighing scales.
The rainbow that's saddled has rapid gill movement now so I'm going to have to make a quick decision (off to shops)as it'll most likely be dead in the next couple of days.
I think I'll just split the powder form into rough equal piles and medicate, I know chloromine t is relatively ok to overdose in high pH and is active for a short time period.
Thanks for trying to help
 
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Managed to get a few images of the fish Sunday evening, what do you reckon it is? Can't get an image of the guys with the white eroded lips, had to cut 75% of my plants down to get a clear view of the fish.
Picked up some chloromine t and added 9 grammes to my tank on Sunday and dosed another 9 grammes this evening. The rainbow with the worst saddle back is now displaying normal gill movement. I'm dosing 4 X safe to detoxify ammonia, luckily it's only currently 0.25 ppm, and gone by the time the lights fire up but I'll continue dosing safe to be on the safe side.
I've stopped feeding whilst treating, no nitrites as of yet.
 

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I don't know if the Captain can shed any light but she is quite experienced in Rainbows and has had some heartache herself with them @CaptainBarnicles
 
Hello! I have some experience but still learning myself, @Colin_T is the rainbow man here and we'll versed in treating illness so he's your best bet. I'm not noticing anything untoward in the photos but you know your fish. If the meds are helping then continue with the treatment, it's not one I'm familiar with. Sorry to not be of much help
 
Hello! I have some experience but still learning myself, @Colin_T is the rainbow man here and we'll versed in treating illness so he's your best bet. I'm not noticing anything untoward in the photos but you know your fish. If the meds are helping then continue with the treatment, it's not one I'm familiar with. Sorry to not be of much help
On the second image you can clearly see a white stripe and a flakey white film. That image was taken after the first dose of chloromine t which started to reveal the pink sore area where the scales are black. After the first dose all rainbow fish lost the majority of the white lips and it looks more like a scar tissue. Here's another image of the worst fish that was saddle backed but it has been taken after the second dose of chloromine t and the white mess has now gone.
 

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Here's also an image of the 3rd fish which was taken just before the second round of chloromine t. If you look carefully non my original image you can just make out a white film on the tail, then the next day this
 

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Hello! I have some experience but still learning myself, @Colin_T is the rainbow man here and we'll versed in treating illness so he's your best bet. I'm not noticing anything untoward in the photos but you know your fish. If the meds are helping then continue with the treatment, it's not one I'm familiar with. Sorry to not be of much help
Hello and thanks btw
 

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