Capturing live wild exotic fish locally

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I'm fortunate to live in tropical south Florida and down here there are several native species that also are regularly found in the aquarium trade like sailfin mollies, flagfish, etc. Recently I've had my eye on getting some Sailfin mollies, called all my LFS and none of them have the sailfin variety. Online retailers are way to expensive, especially for mollies. So at one point I thought: why not just go and catch some? I did some googling and sure enough I'm not the first to think of it, actually found quite a number of videos of people doing this in SoFlo. So now I wanna plan to go out and do it.

It seems the best location would be somewhere along where the everglades meets with urban south Florida. Any locals from the area that have any specific locations worth mentioning?

Any tips or guidance for this little adventure?

I'm planning on taking a large net on the end of a long stick, an empty large cooler to put the fish in with plenty of the water from the same place I capture from, the cooler helping to insulate and maintain the water temp till I (& they) get home. I have no idea about the legality of it, but of course I'll straighten that out before going. I'm guessing all I have to do is have a regular fishing license which is easy & straightforward. I'll also bring some wellington boots, definitely important. It probably won't be for a while, but when I do maybe I'll video record it to share with the forum !
 
Don't waste your time using a scoop net during the day. They are only useful at night when you are spotlighting fish that are asleep. Use bait traps instead.

The following link is from ebay and has collapsible brown bait traps. This is what I use but look around before you buy them online because BigW and Kmart sell them for a few dollars, not 30 dollars like the Ebay vendor.

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Collecting Native Fish

Set up the new aquarium at home well before you go collecting. Do not put wild caught fish into aquariums with domestic captive bred fish like guppies, tetras or anything else from a pet shop because most wild caught fish have never been exposed to common domestic aquarium fish diseases and if you put them together, the wild caught fish often get sick and die. So try to have a new clean tank for the wild caught stuff and make sure it has an established filter. This is more for wild native species and not introduced species living in the wild.

Get some bait traps from BigW or Kmart, or check out fishing and camping stores, and put your name and phone number on tags and attach the tags to the traps. The name and number is usually required by law but different states have different regulations so check with your local Department of fish & game. Try to get dark brown or dark green bait traps, they work better in fresh water. Brightly coloured traps are useless in fresh water.

Get a couple of big buckets with lids, I use 20 & 45 litre plastic buckets/ rubbish bins with lids. The 45 litre plastic rubbish bins can be selt belted into the back seats to stop them moving about.

Get a couple of battery powered air pumps from the pet shop, and get some airline and some plastic multi-coloured airstones with lead weights in the bottom part of the airstone.

Get a Power Inverter from an auto shop. These plug into the cigarette lighter in the car and you can plug a normal aquarium air pump into them and use the pump to aerate the buckets of water on the way home.

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If you want to try a net, make one out of pvc pipe and mosquitoe netting (available from Spotlight and places that sell material for clothing). The frame for the net is made from pvc pipe and you make a rectangle about 2-3 foot long x 18inches - 2ft wide. Then sew the mosquitoe netting onto the frame.

Nets can be dragged through weed beds and grasses along the bank. You will get glass shrimp and Gambusia and maybe a few other fish from these areas. But you might also get snakes so be wary.

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Bait Traps.

Use a hard strong smelling bait. I use trout pellets from local pet shop. They are high in protein and stay together pretty well when wet. Raw prawn from a bait shop works too. Shell the prawn and squash it a bit then put it in the bait section of the trap. Tie the trap to something, put the trap in the water and wait for the fish.

Put 4 or 5 traps in and spread them out so they are at least 20meters apart. Have some in shallow water and others in deeper water (about 2 foot down), and drop one on the bottom (5 or 6ft down). Leave traps for 30-60minutes and do not stand near the traps watching. Just put the traps in and go sit under a tree.

Have a large plastic storage container for when you go to retrieve the traps. Put the storage container in the water and move the trap into the container whilst still in the water. Then tip most of the water out so there is about 4 inches in the bottom. Lift the container and trap out together and put on bank. Open the zipper on the trap and slowly turn the trap so the zipper opening is in the water and the fish can swim out.

The reason I do this is because lots of bait traps have rough course netting that can damage the fish. So if you can let the fish swim out of the trap it is better for them than flapping about on the net in the trap. Then use a soft aquarium net to transfer the fish to a holding bucket that containers an airstone that is bubbling away.

It's usually a good idea to add a tablespoon of rock salt per 20litres of water. It helps calm the fish and reduce the numbers that go belly up.

Put a lid on the bucket and keep it in the shade. If there's no shade, put the bucket in the water and tie it to something so the river water keeps the bucket water cooler.

NB, most states have restrictions on how many traps you can use, and traps normally need a name and contact number on them. There will also be bag limits for how many fish of each species you can take per day. Check with your local fisheries office. General bag limits for non commercial species are around 10 fish per day but take a few and don't get carried away.

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If there are heaps of Gambusia in the waterway there is unlikely to be many native species. However, if you catch out most of the Gambusia over the next month or so, then the natives will move back into the area.

If you catch heaps of Gambusia, you can freeze them, then bury in the garden. The roses love them.
 
Make sure it's legal there to... I know in KY it isn't.
 
Don't waste your time using a scoop net during the day. They are only useful at night when you are spotlighting fish that are asleep. Use bait traps instead.
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Wow, thanks for the great input. You had to have this already typed out somewhere and just copy pasted, right? Honestly I'm shook how considerable your responses and contributions are on this forum. I remember when I had just joined 10 years ago you also replied to lots of my questions, that was 10 years ago, and seems like you've still been here going strong helping other hobbyists the whole time.
 
Happy day,

I live in PBC and I probably saw the same videos as you...the clear water one with the jewel cichlids and stuff look great, but I've not seen those little canals in PBC. I've pulled out mosquito fish, baby tilapia, gars and baby peacocks using a small aquarium net and thrashing around in the reeds, and I have done the soda bottle trap. In the BC times, people used to gather at https://www.predatoryfins.com/ and chat about the hobby once a month on a Saturday. Now that we're AC, I don't think that happens any more, but I'm not sure. You could also check out the Neighborhood Fish Farm (http://tropicalfishmiami.com/) down in Miami and maybe one of the young women that walk through their ponds will have some thoughts. The folks at Barrier Reef in Boca are generally too busy to talk...it is amazing how busy that shop is.

You can also rent a canoe for $32 at Arthur C Marshal National Park and go down the canoe trail. It used to be 5 miles long, but due to Obama-era cutbacks, they closed the back half of the trail. The front half is still a good 2.5 miles long. When you get to the wood platform, its a fair spot for a bag lunch and a wide enough spot to turn around. Lots of grassy marsh are back there. Do watch out for the gator that I call Big Momma. I didn't check to see that its female, and in these gender-fluid times, one never knows what gender is in use today. She's easily 10 feet and during breeding season will actively block your path and dare you try and get past her. I have an amazing story about an experience with her...but that can be for another post.

As for the legality of this, FWC doesn't seem to be too bothered by this sort of thing. That doesn't make it right, of course, but these things work themselves out ok.
 

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