Canister Filter

AndrewGen

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Hi all,

I've been thinking of switching to a canister filter and have been reading up on the various makes. These are the four I've looked at:

Eheim
Marineland
Rena FilStar Xp Series
Fluval 05 Series

The Eheim is a bit pricey. Most others seem to have issues related to leaks.

Does anyone have any experience with these? I would appreciate any suggestions regarding a reliable, cost effective canister filter on the market?

Thanks for your help.
 
i love my eheim 2217, when i put my ear right against the canister i can barely hear it still.
 
Eheim are pricier because they tend to be better built, they have a great reputation. With the exception of the Eheim Eccos (these aren't bad at all, just that they are more expensive than the competition because of the Eheim name, rather than build quality).

But pretty much all the filters you mentioned are good options.

Some people will swear by a certain brand and condemn another, but IMO as long as you look after them properly. Just look at the features each offers (pretty much all the same), decide which one suits you best, or just go for whatevers the cheapest available to you.

That goes for the big brand names (like the ones you mentioned), watch out for cheap value brands like Jebo, Resun and the like. You generally get what you pay for.

Things to consider are flowrate and media layout.

What's best for you will depend on the price different filters are available to you at.

For example, I use Fluvals.

For a 300litre tank the Fluval 305 is £10 cheaper than a Rena XP2 and has a bigger overall media volume, the downside to it is that the media is less flexible, half of it is sponge - great for mechanical filtration but not as good for biological filtration. Great for me, as my tanks are full of plants, which pretty much sort the ammonia out for me, and I need to filter out dead plants leaves and mulm. But if you are going for a heavily stocked tank with no plants, the XP2 would be a better choice since you could fill it with better biological media like ceramic rings (though you would have to buy more of these separately), so it would cost even more.
The equivalent Eheims were almost twice the price and had less flow rate, so not an option with my budget.
The Tetratec (Marineland in the US) ex1200 was more expensive than Rena/Fluval of them and wasn't available at my LFS at the time anyway, so not an option either.


They are all reliable as long as you maintain them properly (lubricate all o-rings and check/clean impeller regularly).
 
Eheim are pricier because they tend to be better built, they have a great reputation. With the exception of the Eheim Eccos (these aren't bad at all, just that they are more expensive than the competition because of the Eheim name, rather than build quality).

But pretty much all the filters you mentioned are good options.

Some people will swear by a certain brand and condemn another, but IMO as long as you look after them properly. Just look at the features each offers (pretty much all the same), decide which one suits you best, or just go for whatevers the cheapest available to you.

That goes for the big brand names (like the ones you mentioned), watch out for cheap value brands like Jebo, Resun and the like. You generally get what you pay for.

Things to consider are flowrate and media layout.

What's best for you will depend on the price different filters are available to you at.

For example, I use Fluvals.

For a 300litre tank the Fluval 305 is £10 cheaper than a Rena XP2 and has a bigger overall media volume, the downside to it is that the media is less flexible, half of it is sponge - great for mechanical filtration but not as good for biological filtration. Great for me, as my tanks are full of plants, which pretty much sort the ammonia out for me, and I need to filter out dead plants leaves and mulm. But if you are going for a heavily stocked tank with no plants, the XP2 would be a better choice since you could fill it with better biological media like ceramic rings (though you would have to buy more of these separately), so it would cost even more.
The equivalent Eheims were almost twice the price and had less flow rate, so not an option with my budget.
The Tetratec (Marineland in the US) ex1200 was more expensive than Rena/Fluval of them and wasn't available at my LFS at the time anyway, so not an option either.


They are all reliable as long as you maintain them properly (lubricate all o-rings and check/clean impeller regularly).


Thanks for all the info.

(Are canister filters a better solution than something like the Marineland Emperor BIO-Wheel Powerfilters? They seem to get great reviews).
 
IMO yes they are better, but opinions vary. Hang-on-back filters (HOBs) like the one you mentioned are rarely used over here in the UK, so I've had limited experience with them.

In general though, external canisters give much better circulation out of the box, as the intake/outflow can be placed at different end of the tank or aiming away from each other, and genarally have much more flexible (and better) media options with a far better layout.

The only HOB I would consider as a main filter on a decent sized/stocked tank would be an Aquaclear (great media flexibility/capacity/layout), but only if I could be bothered modding it using PVC pipe so the water flowed to the other side of the tank.
 
They are all reliable as long as you maintain them properly (lubricate all o-rings and check/clean impeller regularly).

You mentioned lubricating all o-rings. How often and with what?
(I keep reading about folks with canister filters that spilled gallons of water on the floor).
 
The modern silicone-rubber product that is used in seals and everywhere that rubber used to be used years ago seems like it should stand up to anything but in fact it will oxidize and break down if exposed to both water and air. It takes a long time for this to happen in filters as there's not much air exposure. But best practice is to keep all silicone parts well-greased with a lubricant. Many use simple vasoline for this but even better are the more pure jelly products that can be had from the filter manufacturers like eheim. Every month or so or whenever I do my filter clean, I remove each silicone piece and coat it all over with lubricant that I've put on my fingers. The main seal between the filter box and powerhead I do by just coating the exposed silicon rather the disturbing the seal seating.

Also at each cleaning you should have little brushes to clean the impeller, magnet assembly and the well it sits down in. You have to be very careful not to break the axel it rotates on. All other chambers should be brushed out too, around the powerhead area. Likewise as a separate project from filter cleaning and less frequent, hoses need to be cleaned out and long brushes are the best for this project too.

You are correct in beginning to surmise that external cannisters are the king of sophistication in the filter world. Even sump filters, which have many technical superiorities over cannisters are still less sophisticated in many ways, noise being one of them! HOBs simply can't compete with cannisters when it comes to media volume (except perhaps a few of the largest Aquaclears.) In cannisters, Eheim, Rena, Tetratec/Marineland and Fluval are the big four and all can be good machines if well maintained and treated gently. Each has its plusses and minuses. Renas have very little to fault except perhaps slightly more noise and less sophistication than Eheim, which of course have the one problem of greater expense. The TT/Marinelands have had some reports of plastic breakage but overall are a very inexpensive and good alternative. Fluvals have quite a few more reports of various failures but on the other hand have many repeat users and have made improvements in the latest model line.

Spills can happen with all filter types and you just have to get familiar and trained with any type you have. I use a plastic kitchen storage box to hold my cannister as a first catch if there were drips or small leaks (which there never have been.) Media volume and flexibility are the main name of the game and cannisters do this the best. Aquaclear HOBs also are pretty plain boxes, allowing flexibility. Ease of removal for mainenance is about equal in higher end cannisters and HOBs. Cannisters win the quiet award over more or less every other type of filter in my opinion. Media trays that lift out with handles make media cleaning really easy. High flow rates and good options for customizing circulation in the tank are also things that cannisters do well.

Anyway, good luck in your quest. Your question would normally belong in the hardware section of our forum. Welcome to TFF.

~~waterdrop~~
 
Anyway, good luck in your quest. Your question would normally belong in the hardware section of our forum. Welcome to TFF.

~~waterdrop~~

Thank you for all the great information. (I'll make sure to create future posts in the correct sections of the forum). :unsure:
 
Alot of it will depend on what size tank you have for example the fx5 is a great filter but putting it on a 10 gallon would not be a good idea. :good:
 
Alot of it will depend on what size tank you have for example the fx5 is a great filter but putting it on a 10 gallon would not be a good idea. :good:

I have a 30 gal.

I'm leaning towards either the EHEIM Classic 2213 of the Rena FilStar XP1.
I like the design of the XP1, but the price is about $30 higher than the EHIEM. (I'm still doing my research on the best pricing in the US).

Any ideas regarding good sellers on the web?
 
The XP1 is a very easy to use filter and I have a few of them. So far they have run trouble free for me once they were set up properly. I had a bit of trouble with an XP2 that I left with hoses that were too long. I thought I would leave myself with future flexibility by having the hoses a bit too long but they kinked and restricted flow when I did that.
 

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