Can I Put Piranha's In Here?

[Tetraking]

Hi just wondering if anyone has kept piranha before, i was thinking of changing the stock in my tank and maybe have just four piranha's, the plan would be to keep four young fish in this rekord 96 and then move then to a bigger tank in around a year or so. I want to keep the tank planted, possilbly even heavyier then it is now.

 

[Esfa]

I'm pretty sure they'd outgrow that within a few months.

 

[Tetraking]

how big would the tank need to be?

 

[paul_219]

No ur tank is pretty small i guess.

 

[JenCliBee]

for 4 P's ur probably looking at 180 gallon and yes they would outgrow ur tank in the matter of mnths also heavily planted probably wouldnt stay heavily planted for long more like plants ripped up here and everywhere


jen

 

[DiscusAngel]

you could have one Serrasalmus sanchezi in there, these piranha's often lived on there own anyway because of there such aggressive nature. heres abit of info on them;

Scientific Name:
Serrasalmus sanchezi

Common Names:
Ruby-Red Piranha, Ruby-Throated Diamond Piranha

Distribution
Rio Itayi, Rio Pacaya, Rio Ucayali, Peru

Maximum fish size
7"(estimate)

Distinctive/unique features:
Red eyes.
Black terminal band on tail fin.

Aquarium:
Juveniles and sub-adults can be kept in a tank measuring 24x12". When they reach a size of 4-6", a 32" long, 12-14" deep tank is more suitable to provide enough space to move and turn freely. Adult fish need a tank of at least 40x16x16".
To shoal this species, at least a 52x20" tank is required: for each fish at least 25-30 gallons is required.


Temperture
24-30

Ph
5.5-7.5

Compatibility
This pecies has been shoaled in the past in a few rare instances, although they are not very tolerant toward thier own species. Due to the aggresive natue of this species most attempts are very short lived.....

 

[spAcE mOnkEy]

You could do some smaller species of piranha. Also, red bellies would need at least a 75 gallon, and only 4 of them. A 75 gal is about 4ft by 18" wide by 21" high. You could definitely do a really nice school of exodon tetras. I also don't believe piranhas rip up planted tanks. I also didn't figure out how big your tank is because I'm too lazy to do the math.

 

[Mr._Fishy]

You could do some smaller species of piranha. Also, red bellies would need at least a 75 gallon, and only 4 of them. A 75 gal is about 4ft by 18" wide by 21" high. You could definitely do a really nice school of exodon tetras. I also don't believe piranhas rip up planted tanks. I also didn't figure out how big your tank is because I'm too lazy to do the math.

Yep, not all piranhas will rip up planted tanks. Mine certainly doesn't.

 

[JenCliBee]

You could do some smaller species of piranha. Also, red bellies would need at least a 75 gallon, and only 4 of them. A 75 gal is about 4ft by 18" wide by 21" high. You could definitely do a really nice school of exodon tetras. I also don't believe piranhas rip up planted tanks. I also didn't figure out how big your tank is because I'm too lazy to do the math.

hmmmm are u trying 2 say 4 full grown 10 inch+ P's can live in a 75 gallon tank lol oh well if u think so.... also do u think a heavily planted tank is gonna stay presine when u have 4 fish this size ripping food apart trust me they wont stay buried for long. i didnt mean rip up as in them ripping up with there mouths i ment as swimming or feeding.


jen

 

[Tetraking]

Thanks very much all, i guess my tank is to small, i would really love to see a picture of the fish discusangel metioned, sounds interesting, does anyone have one or any expeience with them?

 

[jayjay]

You could do some smaller species of piranha. Also, red bellies would need at least a 75 gallon, and only 4 of them. A 75 gal is about 4ft by 18" wide by 21" high. You could definitely do a really nice school of exodon tetras. I also don't believe piranhas rip up planted tanks. I also didn't figure out how big your tank is because I'm too lazy to do the math.

hmmmm are u trying 2 say 4 full grown 10 inch+ P's can live in a 75 gallon tank lol oh well if u think so.... also do u think a heavily planted tank is gonna stay presine when u have 4 fish this size ripping food apart trust me they wont stay buried for long. i didnt mean rip up as in them ripping up with there mouths i ment as swimming or feeding.


jen

75g is the recommended minimum for 4 RBP's. Of course bigger is better, but Space is quite correct in what he said. Large, well rooted plants will be fine with them as well, they'll take some damage probably and need to be securely in place but should do fine.

 

[DiscusAngel]

Thanks very much all, i guess my tank is to small, i would really love to see a picture of the fish discusangel metioned, sounds interesting, does anyone have one or any expeience with them?

here is one, i have no experience with them but im sure if you headed to the predatory section they may have some knowledge for you,

 

[Tetraking]

Thanks DiscusAngel, i done some research today and they do look like great fish, i would love to own one but i think my tank is the very minimum size which is not ideal i know and i not even sure i could get hold of one, all red belly's for sale in my lfs and i can't see me ordering form a different country. I am tempted but will have to think some more, not sure if i would get bored with just the one fish.

Thanks

 

[Gatorbait]

You could do some smaller species of piranha. Also, red bellies would need at least a 75 gallon, and only 4 of them. A 75 gal is about 4ft by 18" wide by 21" high. You could definitely do a really nice school of exodon tetras. I also don't believe piranhas rip up planted tanks. I also didn't figure out how big your tank is because I'm too lazy to do the math.

hmmmm are u trying 2 say 4 full grown 10 inch+ P's can live in a 75 gallon tank lol oh well if u think so.... also do u think a heavily planted tank is gonna stay presine when u have 4 fish this size ripping food apart trust me they wont stay buried for long. i didnt mean rip up as in them ripping up with there mouths i ment as swimming or feeding.


jen

75g is the recommended minimum for 4 RBP's. Of course bigger is better, but Space is quite correct in what he said. Large, well rooted plants will be fine with them as well, they'll take some damage probably and need to be securely in place but should do fine.

I've had 70-100 rbp's at one time or another and I have to agree with JenCliBee.

Even if she were wrong it wouldn't matter how rooted or secure the plants were like you said. Piranhas aren't like cichlids where they grab and pull, they bite and clip the plants off. Both natural plants and plastic ones. Piranha's behave much differently than other fish and is based upon what they have evolved to.

My first S. rhombeus I had hated plants so much that he wouldn't even bother moving it like some cichlid would, he would bite it down to nothing in a couple hours. I had nothing but plastic plant leaves floating all over so I left his tank empty.

Teeth like this don't pull on plants, they just cut them off if they so desire. Like I said, not all do but there's nothing you can do to save your plants from the majority who do want to and securing them means nothing.

 

[Neesmo]

I have 5 RBP in a 80 gallon. 1 9", 2 7-8", and 2 5-6" and they always have chunks of their plants floating in the tank from biting at them. They bite them a lot when going for pellets i feed them daily in between fillet, shrimp and smelts..