Breeding the wild caught

[OohFeeshy]

*groan* Summer holidays coming up, and you know what? I'm already bored stiff. So, I thought as a small project, I'd try breeding a wild caught fish. There have been threads about it before, but not a list of commonly found in LFS's wild caught species that haven't been bred in captivity. Basicly, for starters, what I want to know is-
Are there any smallish fish that haven't been bred in captivity before? I'm talking 10g maximum tank size (for spawning, they can be moved to a 20 if need arises) and also, if you know, what kind of conditions are we talking about in the wild?

 

[Ben]

wild caught apistogramma!
all they need is softish water, low PH
leaf litter bottom, lots of caves, lots of blood worms
maybe a trio if you havent bred them before

viola!

DD

 

[OohFeeshy]

Unfourtunately I have hard water. And haven't seen wild caught apistos anywhere.

 

[Ben]

what about wild caught corys?
and i think most tetras today are wild caught....but again...need soft water for both cory and tetra

damn...worth a try though

DD

 

[OohFeeshy]

I was thinking about trying Khuli Loaches. I can get them, but I can't find out the conditions they live in in the wild. They have been bred before, but by accident, and I can't find any realiable reports on how to do it. So, I figure these would be good to start with.

 

[quintessential]

I know its probably wrong butI caught some guppy's on holiday.
Anyway I brought them home and bred from them. Ok so they aren't the hardest project to breed but satifying all the same.

 

[fishman 1]

Why don't you just try to breed something that you like?
Why does it have to be something that has not been bred before and wild caught fish?

Breeding the most commonest of species can be quite satisfying. Especially when you get good offspring.

If your water is hard providing it is neutral to alkaline you could try breeding any of the tanganykan shell dwellers (Neolamprologus species eg. brevis, similis, hequi, occelatus etc etc). They do not require all that much space for a pair.

Or if you want to try with dwarf cichlids or killifish all you got to do is get some rainwater instead of your mains water.

what ever you choose, good luck!

 

[@ombomb]

Did anyone else assume, based on the first post that she actually planned to go and catch the fish to breed?

Or was that just me?

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Edited for spelling and correct gender

 

[abstract]

Did anyone else assume, based on the first post that he actually planned to go and catch thhe fish to breed?

Or was that hjust me?

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thats what i figured too

 

[OohFeeshy]

*cough* Its she. What I meant was....
Almost all the fish you buy at your LFS are wild-caught. Only the very easiest, such as livebearers, are actually bred on fish farms. Even fairly easy to breed fish such as cardinal tetras are wild caught, because it costs far less to do that than to breed them.
I want to try and breed something not bred many times/never before because not only will it benefit fishkeepers, but also possibly slightly lessen the demand for wild ones. Mebbe not, but I have very little selection to pick from. Shelldwellers? Nope, never seen them.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

You are unlikely to breed anything that hasn't been bred in captivity before in a 10 or 20gallon tank simply because all fish which can be bred in such tanks, the breeders have alreday done so.
Fish that are left and havn't been bred in captivity before simply havn't been done so because they require very mature large tanks and exact replica of habitat including mud/clay, other substrates, strength of current changes in tank temp replicating dry and wet seasons, exact ph and gh/kh, perfect constant water quality, plants found in natural habitat etc etc....You see what i am getting at? A 10gallon tank is rather on the small side for khuli loachs too- you have a one in a million chance of ever been sucessful, probably even slimmer chance. People don't even know how to tell male and female khuli loachs apart and what age they need to be to breed or what the fry should be raised on etc.
If you want to invest in breeding fish that have never been bred in captivity before, it is not somthing you should do when you are bored or you feel you want to "try your hand at", its a serious undertaking and needs alot of researching into and money to do so.

As suggested before, why not breed somthing that has already been bred in captivity before and there are people that could give you advice and help on doing so?

 

[quintessential]

According to my boys book of knowledge.

Herbert Axelrod succesfully bred the coolie loach in 1954. Acanthophthalmus semicinctus.
quote" the parents make a bubble nest and each egg is enclosed in a single large bubble.
For good results place half a coconut shell upside down on the bottom of the tank having first drilled a few small holes in it. This gives security and also a place to breed".


My other book says that they have not bred in captivity so you choose.

Quint