Black Corydoras

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what is the name of the bkack corydoras as ive seen 2 names which one is it or are they both black and if so which one is the true one?

1)corydoras aeneus "black"
2)black Venezuela
 
This is a subject that has been discussed here many many times and to be perfectly honest and without wishing to offend you or anyone else, I am not going to repeat my self yet again. If you put "Black Cory" into the search box I am sure you will be able to read all the many posts that have been made on the subject.


Ian
 
I bought some labelled as venezuelan blacks, not sure if they were correctly labelled or id but they slightly different in appearance to my c aeneus albinos body is sharper, not as chunky and alot longer in appearance, now i know they are still young but these difference are still evident when i compare the c aeneus young with the blacks they are just not as thickly set to me
 
The labels are mostly incorrect. Even when you buy from importers or even some breeders, they are confused.
C. Venezuelanus here This is the fish as it is when bred true or caught in the wild. It is not what is often sold under this name.

The fish known as The Blacks are here

They are known as C. aeneus blacks and C. schultzei blacks. This confusion is due to the loss of the papers on the C. schultzei during the war so that they were later classified as aeneus, loosing their individual designation. You will find them referred to both ways.

They were line bred and the line stablized to breed true in Germany by a breeder from the what was known at the time as the C. schultzei, sometimes referred to as gold shoulder. Later the Czechs started breeding them.

They are not a naturally occuring variation as is an albino, which may show up in the wild. The Blacks have never been found in the wild, but the C. schultzei sometimes can revert to a very dark color but still with the gold shoulder. The Blacks do not have the gold shoulder.

If I have missed something or mistated something feel free to yell at me. LOL It is a very confusing area. And it is not made easer by importers and breeders who mislabel their product.

Now you can check me out by searching Ian's post here or on the Web.
 
If you are in England check with drewery. He has a supplier--Lee/Spooky--who is a good contact. In the States watch AquaBid and expect to pay, esp. with the cost of shipping so high.
 
There are 2 forms of the Venezuelanus, one from the mountains streams and one from the plains--as I remember, but may be off slightly never having been to Venezuela to catch Corys. The plains form is darker/blacker. But it still has the orangy colors on the shoulders, etc..

Frank Falcone/coryologist breeds and sells the true Blacks in the States on AquaBid. I may have some extras soon myself if you are in CA, although the first ones are promised.

I believe last I heard, Spooky calls them C. aeneus black. Frank and I call them C. schultzei black
 
Contact chilton aquatics for some of these they are 5.95 each and they do postal service as far as i know
 
The States are so large that shipping is a killer right now. I was just looking at some C. Venezuelanus wild caught for $7 each or 6/$39. But the shipping overnight for FedEx is $51 for 6 fish. So $90 for 6 quality fish. The last few shipments I did last year before shipping went up again were $300 and $400.

Needless to say I am working on breeding for now. I hope to find contacts for my fish without having to ship them too often. I just sold 6 sterbai to a private buyer for $20. They are $27 for 3 in our best lps. I just dropped off a bucket of F1/F2 pandas, lf aeneus, and Falcone guppies to that lps. I do not know yet what they will give me for them. The manager was not in. I just didn't want the hastle of shipping them, although they are quality fish and would sell online.

I think my LF pandas may be breeding and the melini, as well as the sterbai, pandas, longipinnus, blacks, albino peppers, ppeppers, lf and regular aeneus.... It is Wanton City right now. The little ladies are all ajitter.
 

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