Bettas over cichlids.

[SirMinion]

I'm afraid this makes my blood boil.
This is not a flame aimed at FreshMike. In fact it's not a flame at all, but a carefully considered argument.

FreshMike cares about his fish and may not keep his Bettas in mayo jars all the time, We'll have to wait and see what he says, but there's plenty who do keep them like this. And worse.

Just because this is how they've always been kept, and just because they can be kept like this, doesn't mean that they should be kept like this.

Is this an acceptable way to keep hamsters?

Of course not. So why do so many people see it as acceptable to keep a fish like that?

And the "but wild bettas live in puddles and so prefer confined spaces" argument just doesn't wash.
Hamsters live in confined spaces in burrows, yet we do not keep them in jars.

Rant over. Now excuse me.

 

[Ron]

I 100% completely UNDERSTAND and AGREE with all of the comments on the jars and that they are too small for any fish. Accually I have no porblem what so ever with people saying that. What I have a problem with is how people said it. It was very rude, and you guys attacked him without giving him a chance to tell his side of the story. You just right away jumped on his back. Thats what I find troubling.

 

[Sorrell]

Oh please

Just because those fish were ordered in doesn't mean they are living in those jars forever, had you done a little more detective work there, you would have found a topic where Chris says these jars are as big as he can find right now, and I happen to know firsthand that he is buying all the one gallon bowls he an get his hands on, putting together a female tank, and renovating some of the other betta tanks.

Just because he special ordered those fish and they are currently in jars doesn't mean that's permenent. Lots of us with many bettas have fish in temp housing all the time, fish going in divided tanks being quarantined, coming in and out of spawns, rearranging. On any given day in my fish room you will find at least 5 bettas in cups for one reason or another, and I would sure hope I wouldn't be flamed no questions asked.

Did you guys stop to think maybe he's showing a funny picture to share how overrun he is? Good Lord

 

[CFC]

I think this is one of those US/UK things, over here in the UK keeping any fish like that would land you in trouble with the RSPCA, although its not actually illegal they would still prosicute for animal cruelty for not giving the fish enough space. You will not usually find a tank of less than about 3 gallons on sale in a UK fish store and bowls are almost extinct. Cups and vases for bettas dont even exist.

 

[Auratus]

I agree that people shouldn't have been so hard on him but it also seems like people are trying to justify what he's doing because he is "freshmike". If a newbie did that they would get flamed hard. JMO

 

[Opcn]

I agree that those look like temporary homes which are okay. However PSGill I dont think that your bettas should be in something that small even though there are alot of people that do. there are alot of things that are common and VERY wrong.

 

[Sorrell]

I agree that people shouldn't have been so hard on him but it also seems like people are trying to justify what he's doing because he is "freshmike". If a newbie did that they would get flamed hard. JMO

I don't know if this is directed at me or not, but I talk to Chris daily and happen to know his situation. I would hope that no one, newbie or not would be treated like this without asking them to clarify the situation.

 

[freshmike]

#1. This picture was supposed to have some humor in it....

#2. As mentioned....who cares if I am freshmike?

#3. Who the **** are you people to judge how I take care of my fish?? You are not here watching me do w/c's every freaking day, are you?? As a matter of fact, these jars are bigger than 3/4's of any of the containers you can buy that are DESIGNED to house bettas.

#4. Yes. I have 1 gallon bowls being ordered for them...and bigger "jars" as well.

#5. Thank you to the ones who supported me, the rational thinkers.

#6 SCREW the rest of you!!!!~

:edit: what a thing to wake up to....a bunch of freaking losers cutting me down for taking VERY good care of my fish. Y'all bite me.

 

[wrs]

Good for you!

 

[Arashi]

I agree that people shouldn't have been so hard on him but it also seems like people are trying to justify what he's doing because he is "freshmike". If a newbie did that they would get flamed hard. JMO 

I don't know if this is directed at me or not, but I talk to Chris daily and happen to know his situation. I would hope that no one, newbie or not would be treated like this without asking them to clarify the situation.

I gotta agree. Although seriously, this is the way that these forums are going...it seems anyone who seems to have one toe out of line gets it cut off. I mean seriously people, be this Freshmike we are talking about here, or some newbie, let the person explain him/her self before we go in for the kill. Stuff like this ticks me off.

And Chris, I think the pic is lovely. The fish are gorgeous, and I see no sign of abuse ANYWHERE!

 

[willywonka099]

Thoughs are beautiful bettas !!! Great camera skills, and yes i have seen mason jars that I think look about 1 gallon to two gallons. You guys piss me off the way you assume things. You all assumed since he kept them in "jars" they were tiny things. He could be quarentining upon many other things until he has room for them. And is it really right a store can charge up around 25$ for a one gallon container ??? no
anyway those fish are very beatiful ... the females also I think a few of them will make some BEAUTIFUL FRY !!!

 

[freshmike]

I cant beleive you would keep fish in those tiny little jars!!! Im sorry but thats just sick, they sell beer in bigger bottles than that.

You are really helping out the morale of the place aren't ya? Good on ya for being a mod on top of it all.....can't ban ya. Loser.

I will put them back in these if that makes you happy.

 

[clutterydrawer]

I think this is one of those US/UK things, over here in the UK keeping any fish like that would land you in trouble with the RSPCA, although its not actually illegal they would still prosicute for animal cruelty for not giving the fish enough space. You will not usually find a tank of less than about 3 gallons on sale in a UK fish store and bowls are almost extinct. Cups and vases for bettas dont even exist.

Sorry but I've seen a lot of 4-litre fish bowls both in lfs and in places like wilkinsons, usually they are sold with free goldfish food so it's obvious what they're gonna house... also those things like big wine glasses, but supposedly for keeping fish in.

 

[Auratus]

Sorrell, that post wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular, I was just saying what I thought I saw in the posts. If I was talking about a specific person I would have made a quote. Honestly, I could care less about how he takes care of his fish, they aren't mine. If you noticed, I said people shouldn't be so hard on him also, but you seemed to focus on the other part of my post.

 

[nitro]

You are really helping out the morale of the place aren't ya? Good on ya for being a mod on top of it all.....can't ban ya. Loser.

Harsh words.

Anyways i think that the people that critised you including me were just saying as their first reaction to the pic your posted?

However seeing all your fabulous tanks that you post on here, i should of thought first before posting because you do take care of your fish and you can really see this in all your pics you post!

Nitro