Best Size Tank And Occupants For Angels If Not Suggestions :)

[nortonmad213]

well i was looking at some angels in my lfs and was wondering the parameters thats best for them as i know from experience to never listen to them,
so i came here

i currently have a 170l tank 100cm x 35 x 50 ish
with 5 dwarf chain loaches, 4 danios (i know i need to up the number but lfs stock always looks ill) and 1 gecko loach (lost one last week

 

so any suggestions gladly accepted.
thanks a lot

 

[DerpPH]

well i was looking at some angels in my lfs and was wondering the parameters thats best for them as i know from experience to never listen to them,
so i came here

i currently have a 170l tank 100cm x 35 x 50 ish
with 5 dwarf chain loaches, 4 danios (i know i need to up the number but lfs stock always looks ill) and 1 gecko loach (lost one last week

 

so any suggestions gladly accepted.
thanks a lot

 
 
well only having 1 loach species is good because all loaches need to be in groups. And your chain loaches cover up the bottom area already.
 
You can try tetras, danios prefer cooler temps

 

[nortonmad213]

i think my chains missed that memo
they go everywhere its fascinating it really is.
i try to keep the temp so that everyone is happy but yes ideally they do have to be rehomed but my lfs wont take them

 

[DerpPH]

i think my chains missed that memo

they go everywhere its fascinating it really is.
i try to keep the temp so that everyone is happy but yes ideally they do have to be rehomed but my lfs wont take them

 
tsk thats sad
 
You will have to stick with your stocking though or you can sell those loaches in our 'classifieds' section

 

[nortonmad213]

out of my stocking id rather see the danios go because originally they were supposed to be for post-cycle fish to make sure that a mini cycle wasn't around the corner,
and me being a softy fell in love with them,
but the chain loaches have stolen my heart now,
so if anyone wants to buy some danios
i am looking to properly stock the tank just dont know which direction to go with it,

 

[DerpPH]

out of my stocking id rather see the danios go because originally they were supposed to be for post-cycle fish to make sure that a mini cycle wasn't around the corner,
and me being a softy fell in love with them,
but the chain loaches have stolen my heart now,
so if anyone wants to buy some danios

i am looking to properly stock the tank just dont know which direction to go with it,

 
 
How about you substitute the angels with rams? they are more docile.
 
You  could go like this: 1 pair of rams, 5 chain loaches, 6 cardinal tetras, some top swimmers of some sort
 
in a 40 gallo

 

[nortonmad213]

liking those suggestions alot,
would i be able to swap the tetras for rasboras or would that not work?
i'll keep my eyes open but love the way everythings progressing,
cant get anything til thursday on payday

 

[DerpPH]

yeah I think so. Try posting on the classifieds if anyone is willing to trade, you can also buy from your nearest Maidenhead Aquatics

 

[nortonmad213]

 

out of my stocking id rather see the danios go because originally they were supposed to be for post-cycle fish to make sure that a mini cycle wasn't around the corner,
and me being a softy fell in love with them,
but the chain loaches have stolen my heart now,
so if anyone wants to buy some danios

i am looking to properly stock the tank just dont know which direction to go with it,

 
 
How about you substitute the angels with rams? they are more docile.
 
You  could go like this: 1 pair of rams, 5 chain loaches, 6 cardinal tetras, some top swimmers of some sort
 
in a 40 gallo
 

how difficult are rams to look after?
i've never really looked for them or at them tbh.
 

yeah I think so. Try posting on the classifieds if anyone is willing to trade, you can also buy from your nearest Maidenhead Aquatics

i'll give it a go,
best make sure they are in best of health first
i know they are but it'll ease peoples minds.

 

[DerpPH]

 

 


out of my stocking id rather see the danios go because originally they were supposed to be for post-cycle fish to make sure that a mini cycle wasn't around the corner,
and me being a softy fell in love with them,
but the chain loaches have stolen my heart now,
so if anyone wants to buy some danios

i am looking to properly stock the tank just dont know which direction to go with it,

 
 
How about you substitute the angels with rams? they are more docile.
 
You  could go like this: 1 pair of rams, 5 chain loaches, 6 cardinal tetras, some top swimmers of some sort
 
in a 40 gallo
 

how difficult are rams to look after?
i've never really looked for them or at them tbh.
 

yeah I think so. Try posting on the classifieds if anyone is willing to trade, you can also buy from your nearest Maidenhead Aquatics

i'll give it a go,
best make sure they are in best of health first

i know they are but it'll ease peoples minds.
 


 
Rams are quite hardy fish, But the wild rams are a pain, they are too sensetive. so are electric blues

 

[nortonmad213]

http/www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=830+889+1084&pcatid=1084
it says here that they're care level is difficult
do you know what it means by this?
is it to do with diet etc.

 

[nortonmad213]

oh and i forgot i have loads of MTS as well

 

[hobby5]

Which rams are hardy? Those are not:
 
http/www.seriouslyfish.com/species/mikrogeophagus-ramirezi/

 

[nortonmad213]

i am also interested in this

 

[DerpPH]

Which rams are hardy? Those are not:
 
http/www.seriouslyfish.com/species/mikrogeophagus-ramirezi/

 
 
Nope, Captive bred rams are hardy. I can prove this by My rams. They are really hardy, not too sensetive.
 
It all goes down to whether they are wild caught or captive bred for generation. Which is the same thing as buying from a reliable breeder.