Been Playing With The Camera Again

[markandhisfish]

she cracked

 

[stang1]

she cracked

 

[markandhisfish]

hows about this approach tell him that as there are 2 empty tanks side by side , that you have 1 for discus , and he can do what he likes with the other tank. then when he gets jelouis cos your fish are better than his he can go discus as well and you will in effect ( kind of) have a 10 ft discus tank!!!!!!!!

if all else fails maybe try a good old fashioned tantrum followed by cold shoulder until he gives in lol

 

[stang1]

Lol, I'm liking your style!
Luckily, he's happy enough for me to choose the fish as long as he likes them. I know he likes Discus as he's commented before about them. If I can convince him that I've finally made up my mind, it shouldn't take too much persuasion. *fingers crossed*

 

[markandhisfish]

im sure you will win him over .....somehow

 

[GAB99]

just WOW! they look amazing....

could you tell me what type of tank setup would be suitable for discus, could i keep them with these...

3 adult peppered corys,

4 adult bronze corys,

15 6/7 old cory juveniles,

2 sub adult clown plecos,

1 adult female bn,

1 sub adult talking / Raphael catfish.

many thanks.

actually everything but the colwn plecos would be ok in the tank with discus, im staring at the temp requirments now

 

[JenCliBee]

just WOW! they look amazing....

could you tell me what type of tank setup would be suitable for discus, could i keep them with these...

3 adult peppered corys,

4 adult bronze corys,

15 6/7 old cory juveniles,

2 sub adult clown plecos,

1 adult female bn,

1 sub adult talking / Raphael catfish.

many thanks.

actually everything but the colwn plecos would be ok in the tank with discus, im staring at the temp requirments now

I wont go into to much discussion becasue it's marks thread but sort of temps in mind to show why they wont live happily in discus temps of around 86.F

peppered corys... prefer it cooler low 70 is probably ideal, mid 70's doable. Anything above this and they wont thrive.

bronze corys... Pretty much same as above but will withstand high 70's again mid 70's is far more ideal

cory juveniles... I'm presuming from the above cories so same goes

clown pleco... As you mentioned wont really thrive in these temps although very low 80's is do-able but i would advise mid to high 70's

bn... i actually didn't see this fish in the list lol , however even though many keep these in discus temps and will spawn and will survive discus temps are still way to high for them, they wouldn't be subjected to these temps in the wild it just happens that they are quite tolerable plecs hence why they are used. I still wouldn't advise temps as high as 86 but low 80's will and can be done, again temps of mid to high 70's is ideal.

Raphael catfish... dependant on actual species, the spotted wont like temps that high, mid to high 70's again would be referred as high as 80 is do-able. on the other hand the striped version will tolerate much higher temps, mid 80's is fine for them but low 80's is preferred.

I don't talk out my #14### mate, i know the requirements and advised accordingly.

Out of curiosity where is the info you were looking at for these fish?

Sorry to highjack thread mark

 

[markandhisfish]

no worries jake , youre spot on with your info too. altho people do have some success with bn plecos in discus tanks , but its not ideal . plecs like golden nugget that like warmer water would be better suited. sterbai corys seem to do well in discus temps , but as far as i know they are the only ones.

 

[Jenni84]

yay she cracked!!! didnt take much though did it??

cant say i blame you though, they really are stunning fish!!

 

[ian]

thanks mate plants are struglling , think i need to re-think the ferts im using . ideally could use more light as well but not really suited to the discus. so i think its gonna take a while to crack the plants. the swords are doing ok , if slowly but the H. polysperma isnt really doing much.

thats suprising that the Hyrophila isn't doing much. I'd leave it a bit longer, i bet it'll go crazy and grow overnight! Why not get loads of different Echinodorus species. I can't remember, are you dosing TPN Plus everyday?

 

[JenCliBee]

no worries jake , youre spot on with your info too. altho people do have some success with bn plecos in discus tanks , but its not ideal . plecs like golden nugget that like warmer water would be better suited. sterbai corys seem to do well in discus temps , but as far as i know they are the only ones.

Yep I'll agree GN's would be far more suited to the temps but size and temperament i still would advise against. Most hypan species would be the way to go, usually stay pretty small in comparison and will generally thankyou for the temps .. diet is pretty much the same as discus aswell... all in all win win situation

I think that's all your missing from your tank now mate, a plec

Again though mate, superb pics and some beautiful fish you have there

 

[markandhisfish]

cheers jake.

size/agression issues with the golden nugget can be got around by having the L081 small spot nugget which i had before i broke the tank down to do the change over. max out smaller and less aggro . only trouble is they can be prone to attatching themselves to the discus during the night and feeding off their slimecoat. shouldnt be too much problem if the plec has plenty of food , but i felt it wasnt worth the risk. its the only reason i sold the nugget . i do want some bottom dwellers so i may well go for a group of sterbai corys as they seem to be able to handle the higher temps pretty well..

next thing i want to get tho is a small quarentine tank, because i dunno if you followed but i lost most of my cardinals in the 1st couple of weeks before i got the discus. out of 40 i am left with 10. so i want to set up a q tank and get 20 or 30 rummynose , but id want to Q them for at least 6 weeks before i risked adding anything , now that the discus are in place.

 

[GAB99]

just WOW! they look amazing....

could you tell me what type of tank setup would be suitable for discus, could i keep them with these...

3 adult peppered corys,

4 adult bronze corys,

15 6/7 old cory juveniles,

2 sub adult clown plecos,

1 adult female bn,

1 sub adult talking / Raphael catfish.

many thanks.

actually everything but the colwn plecos would be ok in the tank with discus, im staring at the temp requirments now

I wont go into to much discussion becasue it's marks thread but sort of temps in mind to show why they wont live happily in discus temps of around 86.F

peppered corys... prefer it cooler low 70 is probably ideal, mid 70's doable. Anything above this and they wont thrive.

bronze corys... Pretty much same as above but will withstand high 70's again mid 70's is far more ideal

cory juveniles... I'm presuming from the above cories so same goes

clown pleco... As you mentioned wont really thrive in these temps although very low 80's is do-able but i would advise mid to high 70's

bn... i actually didn't see this fish in the list lol , however even though many keep these in discus temps and will spawn and will survive discus temps are still way to high for them, they wouldn't be subjected to these temps in the wild it just happens that they are quite tolerable plecs hence why they are used. I still wouldn't advise temps as high as 86 but low 80's will and can be done, again temps of mid to high 70's is ideal.

Raphael catfish... dependant on actual species, the spotted wont like temps that high, mid to high 70's again would be referred as high as 80 is do-able. on the other hand the striped version will tolerate much higher temps, mid 80's is fine for them but low 80's is preferred.

I don't talk out my #14### mate, i know the requirements and advised accordingly.

Out of curiosity where is the info you were looking at for these fish?

Sorry to highjack thread mark

lol i was thinking of capping the word OK since i sorta aggree with you, they'll be ok but not their best, though i seem to be lucky as i have a tank that stays upper 70s to around 80 at times with neon rainbows and lots of egglaying going on

 

[JenCliBee]

cheers jake.

size/agression issues with the golden nugget can be got around by having the L081 small spot nugget which i had before i broke the tank down to do the change over. max out smaller and less aggro . only trouble is they can be prone to attatching themselves to the discus during the night and feeding off their slimecoat. shouldnt be too much problem if the plec has plenty of food , but i felt it wasnt worth the risk. its the only reason i sold the nugget . i do want some bottom dwellers so i may well go for a group of sterbai corys as they seem to be able to handle the higher temps pretty well..

next thing i want to get tho is a small quarentine tank, because i dunno if you followed but i lost most of my cardinals in the 1st couple of weeks before i got the discus. out of 40 i am left with 10. so i want to set up a q tank and get 20 or 30 rummynose , but id want to Q them for at least 6 weeks before i risked adding anything , now that the discus are in place.

L81 is and can be just as aggressive if wanted mate, it also can get as big as the other species even though it generally doesn't. It still is a 10-12 inch fish either way, the reasons it is unusual to see many at larger sizes (alot of GN's really) is becasue people either don't keep them long enough and the fact that they are just soooo slow growing lol and hard to get them fully thriving hence why there are so many reports of them just dieing with no apparent reason . The sucking on slime coat really isn't that common tbh, ive known a few plecs do it (usually larger common species etc) but in general it isn't a likely thing to happen with most species.

The QT tank is always a good idea, and yes ive read the topic on the loss of the cardinals, sorry for the losses , sounds like some weak fish tbh but always good to be safer than sorry by QT'ing any fish brought in .

Anyways enough of me now and good luck mate and hopefully whatever you chose.. plec and other tank mate fish thrive and live happily with ya stunning discus .

lol i was thinking of capping the word OK since i sorta aggree with you, they'll be ok but not their best, though i seem to be lucky as i have a tank that stays upper 70s to around 80 at times with neon rainbows and lots of egglaying going on

Then you've missed the whole point of my post's lol, most of the fish that were listed wont just be OK, the tank that houses discus will not be suitable in any meaning of the sense, sorta agreeing with me makes no difference if what ive said is completely true and the fish shouldn't be at them temps.

The rainbows you have will be fine at the temps you have them at, i honestly thought they should be housed in the high 70's anyways?

Anyways no more comments from me on that subject, thread is all about marks fish and it seems a shame to spoil such nice pics of some very nice fish .

 

[bubble87]

beautiful fish