thanks for the advice ill give him a bit to relax before i medicate.....no hes not wild....and the female is his sibling i didnt really think of it but she does look a bit like a dragon....hmmmm im not sure....ill have to wait and see how their colours turn out.....and im not aware of what it means o have a 4,6,or 8 cadual fin...lol
its hard to see in the pictures but the female ive noticed actually has that very metalic blue along her back and its very prominent in natural sunlight (i have their tank light off and just natural sunlight comming in atm) i figured it would help them relax.....its quite beautiful, ill try and get a picture of it sometime....
If the female is 3 months or less its not worth trying to figure out yet you need to wait till they are actually 6 months or more to be more correct on the assumption. This picture is of a young guy definitly not 6 months I forget how old it was when I got it but I had to grow him out so was pretty young, the colours on him now are amazing just after a month of jaring and 2-3 water changes a day and feeding heavy. (Best time to add them to a new tank is when the light is off for a period of 12-24hours with them in so they not only get use to the surroundings but also don't stress right away because of all the major changes, have to remember it went through a long travel)
Okay picture to explain
And I think this guy is a Pastel dragon
Orange = Cadual fin
Red = Tail (Some call it cadual fin)
Green = Cadual Ray
Blue = First split
Purple = Second Split
Yellow is the Cadual Ray fins amount here is 7
Grey = It only concerns breeders but this doesn't apply when looking for the best ray to breed and usually only applies to SD, DT(Assuming trying to get a halfmoon out of the deal or a lady of 8 out of the deal)
I can't teach about the top fin because to be honest I don't know what I am talking about when it comes to the top fin, the ones you are getting is classified as show but they are more for telling the difference is the type they are example would be like dragon etc.
This should clear it up, somehow I forgot to mention ray after the cadual when I typed it(Basically this will sum it up for you and give you an area to look at now for counting) I think I will just stick to saying rays lol much easier for the begginer. I was in a meeting once with alot of breeders btw I had to travel to this meeting what I wanted to gain was some knowledge lol I think at the end of the meeting the only thing I understood was about the fin explained here they where using words I have never even heard about before lmao I never heard so many names for an anal fin zzzz or the top fin lol. I am sure if I explained the CT I would confuse people, even I am confused on the CT kind. Especially when they got into the IBC standards and other standards I was lost lol.
For someone like you, you are more about the show but if you actually look up betta plaket fighting there are clubs for it(Forums), just peep at the forums not saying its right or wrong but they talk about how they breed and share secrets about ladies of 8(rays) and how to get them to be massive fighters(Best spawners for Halfmoons). Some sell the ladies of 8 especially if a winner for well over $1k USD. To them its a sport like UFC here (This is mainly over seas). And if you read the forums instead of thinking most just let them fight to the death they actually don't, some die its part of the course but this is a different area and where most show bettas are bred by these people is why you see those amazing pictures, like that one above, i bet it came from a lady of 8 (If you decide to look it up also look at water quality and how strict the rules are on it when they hit the ring alot more strict than a show betta) They don't follow the same practice we do on keeping them to them water is cheap this is why I always say water is cheap for the best results, there water change goes like this even using the expensive IAL water remember they get the leafs cheap and some use banana leafs to hehe (Remember you need an open mind when reading some of the stuff there, especially if you ever talk to one of them face to face, my transhipper I deal with now use to fight them and I must say some of the knowledge is wow from them they have alot more knowledge then any show breeder has) If you want me to go into depth about it and my visit and talk with him it would be better you mail me don't want to upset alot here about some of the details I know most here if not all are against something like this but they also don't realize usually the females and males go through this and then get bred to keep a strong line of eaither fighters or show
Fighter Water Change
EveryDay! (They Jar them)
1st Day 30-50%
2nd Day 90%
3rd Day 100% (Water Emptied It has no water for a short period of time then filled)
Show
1st Day =30%
2nd =50%
3rd = 75%
4th = 90-95%
They never do 100% water change and not really sure why
the others is from a breed of wilds from the transhipper and must say nothing beats the colours of them. 
its hard to see in the pictures but the female ive noticed actually has that very metalic blue along her back and its very prominent in natural sunlight (i have their tank light off and just natural sunlight comming in atm) i figured it would help them relax.....its quite beautiful, ill try and get a picture of it sometime....
