aquababies?

"My husband and I are both trained biologists"...

LOL! :lol: Excuse the bad language, but that is a load of BS. I'm sure they made up most of those letters themselves. Any "trained biologist" would realize that those things are not good for fish. :grr: Can you imagine the temperature changes that the little cube would endure? How sad... :-(
 
I think the giveway...a dead giveaway, if you'll pardon the pun, is where the "biologist" says they "seemed" to die a natural death, and describes it. Doesn't sound at ALL scientific to me, they did no dissection, no scientific investigation, never mind checking the water ph etc etc and I'm NOT surprised the 2 fish died either. Disposable pets, disposable people....what a planet! -_- Thanks for the heads up on this one. It makes me shake my head while my heart aches for those poor fish. They deserve respect, like all living things do. Well, presuming there's a fishy heaven, those dead fish are a heck of a lot better off than the one still living....and I wonder if it IS still alive now? :S

Actually veal calves don't have a better existence...stuck in barns in crates, can't even turn around or move, never see sunlight, never MOVE and fed diuretics so they constantly have the "runs" so their flesh is all nice and pale for the consumer.......... :sick: Argh!

I'd sooner eat grass......providing my dog hadn't been anywhere near it. :p
 
NinjaSmurf said:
Depending on the plants and other factors technically it could be done, but not with the fish they're trying to use.
And what kind might that be..those plastic ones that float? (sorry shoulda added a "lol" here...as I was sure everyone would know it was a ha-ha moment, not take it as serious. I was wrong :p)

I don't know of any fish that can go a month without a water change, or a 25% only WC..in a cup full of water.
 
I wasn't talking about fish, just the biodome type theory. Chill out.
 
Ive seen this website before, ick... Why can't someone make a GOOD trendy "aquarium"????

I saw on the "animals" page, you can buy a fantail GOLDFISH for in these, that's just insane. :crazy:
 
i think the theory behind this is sound but the tank isn't quite big enuff...... in high school my biology teacher made a biome with 3 minnows (found locally but not identified)a bunch of plants and a deep sand/mud substrate ... snails too....in a 29g. then he sealed it (i think he cycled it first but I'm not sure) there was no way to feed the fish and no way to exchange gasses out the top but the project was a success! the biome lived form a year before i attended till my second year when the fish passed away... i think we had all of one sex since they never did breed.... we where hopeing that they wold breed and keep the biomeg going but after the fish passed the tank still stayed alive...... this was just one of many no-tech tanks this guy made tho so he did have some experience behind him....

I don't know of any fish that can go a month without a water change, or a 25% only WC..in a cup full of water

there is bacteria that lives in an air free ariea of the tank that turns nitrate into a harmless gass. atleast thats what a fue reefkeepers at my LFS tell me... one reson to have a deep subtrate i guess....

if im wrong plz let me know
 
Yeah but this isn't a air-free design. It tells you to feed them with a toothpick (which is handely provided :rolleyes: ) thru the top.

It also gives instructions on how to clean the tank once it gets "cloudy".

I don't know how a subrate could eliminate enough ammonia and/or Nitrite build up to keep it from killing your fish. Even in a big tank with 3 small fish...eventually it's gonna build up and kill them if the water isn't changed.

This isn't a "bio-dome" or an "experiment" this is simply a lazy person's excuse of a pet. They are marketing this towards the parents of small children and/or people who work in offices...so that they think they are getting a maintence free pet. Which just isn't true. Fish are messy, plain and simple. They aren't easy keepers, as they have numerous things that need to be checked and done often to keep them alive happy, and healthy.

I wrote them that e-mail..I'm not, however, holding my breathe waiting on a reply.

If people want a maintence free pet..they should buy a ant farm or a packet of sea monkey's (not brine shrimp..the crystal ones you buy at wal-mart) or a robot dog, imo.

I have 2 dogs, 9 individual fish, a community tank, 7 cats, and a family of raccons (they eat off the back porch), 1 8 yr old, and a full-time job....if I can find time to clean up after, feed, water, play with, and maintain all of that....there is no way any one person who wants/has a fish as a pet can tell me they don't have time to change a cup full of water (not that I think they shoudl be in a cup full of water mind you) for 3 fish everyday. It's just plain laziness, and it urks me to no end.
 
I work with a few biologists and they didn’t know anything about caring for fish. They had tanks in their offices that were meant to go to an evolution exhibit, which reeked of ammonia. You would assume they have a clue…not. Well they have a clue now. :D
 
i agree the fish choce and tank size are wrong but if you have a biome you feed sparingly thats the right size and has the right fish load, the idea there pushing MAY work well for lazy people who want to keep fish....

good for you wrighting the letter! i hope it does something..... i know these things have been around for about 4 years or so now. my friends mom has had sevral of them over the past fue years and like my friend (josh) says "my mom always buys those for everyone during cristmas... they always die a fue months later"
so this means that company makes good money and will probly just brush you to the side.... they know its bad they know there lieing aobut there product... they dont care tho.....

the only thing that can stop this kind of bisness is laws governing how fish are sold...

EDIT:

Even in a big tank with 3 small fish...eventually it's gonna build up and kill them if the water isn't changed.

this is untrue

Biological Denitrification (Nitrate to Nitrogen, Nitrous Oxide or Nitric Oxide)

Biological denitrification reduces the nitrate ion to nitrogen, nitrous oxide or nitric oxide. Many bacterial species that naturally occur in the activated sludge process are capable of denitrification. (WPCF, 65) These denitrifying bacteria are heterotrophic, which means that they can metabolize organic compounds. Unlike nitrifying microorganisms, which can only use oxygen, (WPCF, 66) denitrifying bacteria can use either oxygen or nitrogen. If given a choice, they will prefer to use oxygen, but under anoxic conditions, they will reduce nitrate by a process called nitrate dissimilation, in which nitrate or nitrite replaces oxygen in cell respiration. The denitrifying process produces alkalinity and will take place at temperatures between 0°C and 50°C. The optimum pH range is 7 - 8. A source of organic carbon is also needed for denitrification. Methanol is sometimes used, however, the increase in price of petroleum products makes it prohibitively expensive. The use of raw wastewater or other organics present in industrial wastewater is an economically viable source of organic carbon. (WPCF, 78)


There are two types of bacteria, aerobic and anaerobic. The bacteria that convert ammonia into nitrite and nitrite into nitrate are aerobic, and that means that they need oxygen. However, there is a type of bacteria that converts nitrate into nitrogen gas, which then escapes into the atmosphere. Unfortunately, it's anaerobic, so it can't live in the presence of oxygen, and that's why it doesn't exist in regular biological filters


...the whole nitrogen cycle (ammonia to nitrite to nitrate to N20) can be completed with just the substrait water and an amonia sorce.... i did the reserch after i posted erlyer and a deep substrit will remove nitate....

the aquababies tanks are too samll for this i think...
 
I got an email back from their customer service.....
Thank you for expressing your concerns. Every day I hear from someone who
has had their animals for years in the same container following our
directions. Please read the owner's help section on the web if you are
interested in why the work. As to filtration, an AquaBaby is based on
nitrifying bacteria the same as any other aquaria. It is not necessary to
have a pump to have nitrification - and if you do not believe me, look at
any lake or pond and no one changes the water in them. Hope this
information helps.
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I remember when I wanted one of these, but luckily at the time my mom didnt want me to have fish (she didnt want me to be father like son hahaha, TOO LATE!!). I thought it was neat but I realized later on how cruel it was.
 

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