Anyone Used Kusuri Wormer Plus?

[jnms]

Looking to get some worming medication for my fish and I have come across Kusuri Wormer Plus made my Plymouth Discus.

http/www.kusuri.co.uk/shopping.php?class_id=117

Looking around the Internet, I have heard some good things about Kusuri. However its main ingredient is Flubendazole which I have heard can potentially be harmful.

Has anyone here used Kusuri?

 

[rabbut]

Yup, it was rubbish. It supposidely kills Flukes, but five doses and an intentional overdose later, my fish were still suffering from them. If it's as good for worms as it is flukes, I imagine most people report success because their fish were helthy from the outset, or their fish diden't have internal parasites causing the issues.

Any medication is besed on a poison, that's how they work, so all meds are potentially harmful. Flubendazole nocks the fish for six when dosed though, more so than alternative meds...

Kisuri is based on Flubendazole - 3, which is a weak one. this is why it's legal for them to sell it without a vetenary perscription in the UK. Any Flubendazole based med that is strong ehough for flukes or worms required a perscription in the UK...

I personally use Beaphar Reptile Wormer, based on Levamisole on a needs must basis, i.e. I never dose it in a "precautionary" fassion, even on my Discus tank...

All the best and HTH
Rabbut

 

[jnms]

Thanks for the info rabbut. Glad I asked here before I ordered it.

I've just checked out Beaphar Reptile Wormer - at it appears to only be for roundworm. I am actually after something that deals with tapeworm too.

Will Beaphar Reptile Wormer deal with tapeworm, or is there another medication I should check?

 

[WILDER]

Rabbut did you use the wormer plus once a week for 4 weeks.
You have to use the med for 4 weeks for flukes.

 

[rabbut]

Well, 5 weeks actually... Flubedazole - 5 will kill the flukes themselves, and the eggs, and is the main ingredient of Flubenol, THE fluke and worm medication. It is still available, but only legally under prescription from a vet

The Bephar Wormer is based on Levamisole, which should get all internal parasites. However, it will not get flukes

Note, the Bephar stuff is intended as Reptile wormer, not as a fish medication. For this reason, it's manufacturers information isn't correct for it's use with fish

All the best
Rabbut

 

[WILDER]

Thanks rabbut.
Flukes are very hard to get rid of I agree.
Might not suggest the wormer plus in future then.

 

[rabbut]

I should note the treatment was in Quarantine, not the main display, with some new live stock. I confirmed that is was a fluke infection via a skin scrape test and microscope. I switched to Sterazin and they were sorted reasonably fast. (which will no doubt surprise you, as I recall you don't think much of Sterazin for Flukes Wilder)

I think in future with it though, I may try get some Flubenol, as it's one off, not weekly for 4+ weeks

All the best
Rabbut

 

[WILDER]

I used the watelife steazin on flukes but it didn't do a thing.
Maybe should of redosed. But didn't know much about gill flukes then.
Have to back up with a bacterial med which I didn't know then aswell.

 

[rabbut]

^^While best practice, in the three times I've had to treat Flukes (all bar one in QT with new stock BTW), I've only backed up with Bacterial meds once. When you think about it though, following up with bacteria meds will be several weeks too late, as the Flukes would all have fallen off 2-3 weeks ago. You Follow up with Fluke treatment for a few weeks after to clear any just hatched eggs out with most Fluke meds

All the best
Rabbut

 

[WILDER]

Usually after the first treatments over you use a bacterial med.
With some parasite meds you can use bacterial meds aswell.