Any badis is a good badis

[fishdudein]

Just wondering if anybody has had experience with any of the badis? I first saw these fish in an old aquarium book that I wore the cover off of back in the 70s, and they have always been a dream fish that I was never able to find until just recently. The first ones that I purchased were the scarlet badis, sci. name unknown, that I have recently found out are dwarfs( I originally thought I was getting Juveniles). Then a few weeks later, lfs got in shipment of badis assemensis(sp?). I now have a tank of each, they are really cool fish, doing well and everything,although the scarlets are sometimes difficult to find, even in a ten gallon. Pictures that I fell in love with are of badis badis, which I still have not been able to locate. Is this a rare fish?

 

[Olive]

Just wondering if anybody has had experience with any of the badis? I first saw these fish in an old aquarium book that I wore the cover off of back in the 70s, and they have always been a dream fish that I was never able to find until just recently. The first ones that I purchased were the scarlet badis, sci. name unknown, that I have recently found out are dwarfs( I originally thought I was getting Juveniles). Then a few weeks later, lfs got in shipment of badis assemensis(sp?). I now have a tank of each, they are really cool fish, doing well and everything,although the scarlets are sometimes difficult to find, even in a ten gallon. Pictures that I fell in love with are of badis badis, which I still have not been able to locate. Is this a rare fish?

I am wondering what they are actually, does anyone have a pic of them?

 

[Rudy2860]

http/www.witmyanmar.com/images/big/1201.jpg

very nice looking fish

 

[Olive]

http/www.witmyanmar.com/images/big/1201.jpg

very nice looking fish

I must agree with you! Is it a type of cichlid?

 

[ryan]

There are two subspecies of this fish: Badis badis badis and Badis badis burmanicus. The former is blue and the later predominantly red. Both are small, carnivorous fishes that look rather like some South American Dwarf Cichlids. Sometimes known as chameleonfishes, they come from still waters in India, and are relatively peaceful Miscellameous fishes.

 

[Rudy2860]

very cool fish, reminds me of a cichlid mixed with some type of koi to get the big scales

never have seen one in person though

anyone know how big they get? as fishdudein said he foudn dwarfs

 

[fishdudein]

Info that I have on them says that they are often confused with dwarf cichlids, esp. Apistos. They are related somehow to the leaffishes,and usually prefer to lie motionless waiting for food to come to them. The pictures that I was referring to were in one of Dr. Axelrod's books, a big thick volume loaded with pictures that was never far from my reach, and were of badis badis badis, with very intense blue coloration. This fish I have never actually seen. The scarlets are much smaller, behaving much the same way, but so small they are actually rarely seen. You really have to look for them in the tank at the lfs...they said they don't sell well, mainly because customers look right past them. The badis assemensis has the body shape of badis badis badis, but lacks the bright coloration, being more of a creamy white background color with brownish spots and patterning. Both varieties that I have are doing very well and are easy to care for. Just a new addition to my collection, hoping there might be some badis nuts out there who could share their info on this neat fish. Also, has anybody EVER actually seen a badis badis badis? If it's anywhere near as beautiful as the pics show it to be, and is as undemanding as my current badis are, I would think there would be a demand if someone was to breed them.

 

[Olive]

are they a good community fish?

 

[fishdudein]

The scarlets I kept for a time in a 20 gallon with 5 fancy guppies, 6 red platies, several albino corys, 2 otocinclus, and 6 ghost shrimp. These dwarf scarlets are so small that I was worried more about them being the recipients of harrassment, but everything went fine . Didn't pick on the shrimp or livebearer fry at all. The assemensis I haven't had for very long, they are in a 10 gallon with 7 white cloud minnows and another new fish, a marbled goby. All of my tanks have lots of floating type plants, so there is plenty of cover for a sense of security.So...I would have to say yes, they are good community fish, as I have not had any problems from them so far. My concern would be that if they were housed with any fish that were even somewhat aggressive, the "laid-back" attitude that I have observed would make them targets for aggression.

 

[fishdudein]

sorry about all that color blue stuff---what did I do?

 

[Olive]

The scarlets I kept for a time in a 20 gallon with 5 fancy guppies, 6 red platies, several albino corys, 2 otocinclus, and 6 ghost shrimp. These dwarf scarlets are so small that I was worried more about them being the recipients of harrassment, but everything went fine . Didn't pick on the shrimp or livebearer fry at all. The assemensis I haven't had for very long, they are in a 10 gallon with 7 white cloud minnows and another new fish, a marbled goby. All of my tanks have lots of floating type plants, so there is plenty of cover for a sense of security.So...I would have to say yes, they are good community fish, as I have not had any problems from them so far. My concern would be that if they were housed with any fish that were even somewhat aggressive, the "laid-back" attitude that I have observed would make them targets for aggression.

that is very good to know. I have a "no bully" policy in my 55 gallon. I want utter and strict peace in my tank. I guess with all the violence in the world I know I can achieve "world peace" somewhere, even if it is in little corner of my humble home.
Thanks for your information. I will have to ask my LFS to get a few for me.

 

[Dwarfs]

I first had 2 badis badis badis about five years ago . They turned some amazing colors , from the 1 in the picture above to a dark blueish green , almost a midnight blue , and a deep dark purple color, my son, 4 at the time called them color changing fish.You would think you had all different fish .I bought them on impulse , so I new little about them . My aquarium water was way to turbulant for them , like someone already said , for the most part they like to wait for their food to come to them[ not always the case ] , I don't know if they just weakened from having to swim so much or starved to death . Currently I have 1 badis badis siamensis . I actually got it about a week ago . He [she?] likes to keep a low profile , and now that I know how to care for it I should have him for a while . Once considered a cichlid , and a laberynth fish , the badis badis is listed as a sub order of Perch , I beleave cichilds are also . They should grow to about three inches , and they breed some what like many cichilds[ from what I have read about them ]. A CICHLID is called a cichlid because of it's round scales , cycloid , or [ circular ] . come and get me .

 

[copeina]

A cichlid is called that because of it's round scales... It is a very good thing your next sentence was "Come and get me", because with a comment like that, you are asking for trouble.

Let's begin here:

http/cichlidresearch.com/introducingcichlids.html

Then go here:

http/malawicichlids.com/mw17006.htm

Then stop spreading nasty rumors like that!

/Kris



I wanted to be nice... I really did.

 

[Dwarfs]

A cichlid is called that because of it's round scales...     It is a very good thing your next sentence was "Come and get me", because with a comment like that, you are asking for trouble.

Let's begin here:

http/cichlidresearch.com/introducingcichlids.html

Then go here:

http/malawicichlids.com/mw17006.htm

Then stop spreading nasty rumors like that! 

/Kris 



I wanted to be nice... I really did. 

Sorry if I mis-led anyone , I read some where , I can't remember where .

Right now I wish I could [ 15 years of aquarium fish subscriptions], many ref books ].

That cichlids got the name from the word " cycloid " meaning : round and smooth [ pertaining to their scales]. Though some have ctenoid [ comb like shaped at the edges] scales .

I couldn't find anything to prove or dis- prove my comment at the sites you refered me to "copiena" , so I e mailed the sites operator as well as the operator othe site that is attatched to the "cichlidaddicts" posts . They have'nt gotten back to me yet , when they do I'll let everyone know for sure .

Has anyone else ever read or heard this ?

anyway fishdudein enjoy your badis badis .

 

[Lateral Line]

A cichlid is called that because of it's round scales... It is a very good thing your next sentence was "Come and get me", because with a comment like that, you are asking for trouble.

Let's begin here:

http/cichlidresearch.com/introducingcichlids.html

Then go here:

http/malawicichlids.com/mw17006.htm

Then stop spreading nasty rumors like that!

/Kris



I wanted to be nice... I really did.

Kris,

A "Cichlid", is a fish that is contained within the family Cichlidae. It has nothing, per se, to do with the shape of the scales. Ultimately, the name derives from the Greek kirchlE which, although most often applied to birds, in this case applies to an order of Wrasse like fish. The name continues in derivation to chelidOn from the ancient Greek "swallow", indicative of it's feeding propensity.