Ammonia

[fluttermoth]

All Rift Valley cichlids need hard alkaline water.

The whole of the Rift Valley in Africa, where Lakes Malawi, Tanganyika and Victoria are, is an area with a lot of tectonic plate activity. This means it is very rich in minerals, which dissolve into the water, which gives it a high pH, KH (carbonate hardness,) and GH (general hardness).

 

[jredouard25]

All Rift Valley cichlids need hard alkaline water.

The whole of the Rift Valley in Africa, where Lakes Malawi, Tanganyika and Victoria are, is an area with a lot of tectonic plate activity. This means it is very rich in minerals, which dissolve into the water, which gives it a high pH, KH (carbonate hardness,) and GH (general hardness).

How do u get a high GH and kH?


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[fluttermoth]

If you had a proper, Rift Valley, set-up, you would use a mineral mix, dissolved and mixed into the water, but you need tests for hardness, and possibly a hydrometer as well.

Unfortunately, you can't use them in the tank now, with the mix of fish you have, as it will probably kill the other fish. I'm afraid you're going to have to decide which sort of fish you want to keep and rehome the others, or have two tanks.

 

[jredouard25]

If you had a proper, Rift Valley, set-up, you would use a mineral mix, dissolved and mixed into the water, but you need tests for hardness, and possibly a hydrometer as well.

Unfortunately, you can't use them in the tank now, with the mix of fish you have, as it will probably kill the other fish. I'm afraid you're going to have to decide which sort of fish you want to keep and rehome the others, or have two tanks.

Thts oof


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[jredouard25]

Thts oof


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Im searching up a lot of videos and of care for “African Cichlids” and none of them say they need heard alkaline GH KH and all that.


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[fluttermoth]

Here you go;

https://www.aqueon.com/information/care-sheets/cichlids-african-rift-lake

http://badmanstropicalfish.com/afcichlids.html

https://www.cichlidae.com/article.php?id=147

 

[Fish345]

Poor fish... Overstocked...

 

[Byron]

Im searching up a lot of videos and of care for “African Cichlids” and none of them say they need heard alkaline GH KH and all that.

Those in this hobby know that the only reliable information comes from knowledgeable ichthyologists and biologists, plus those hobbyists that are well experienced. Any one can set up a site on the internet, and publish all sorts of nonsense. Learn to know the reliable sites or you will not have success.

Fluttermoth has given you three, all run by cichlid experts including biologists.

 

[jredouard25]

Those in this hobby know that the only reliable information comes from knowledgeable ichthyologists and biologists, plus those hobbyists that are well experienced. Any one can set up a site on the internet, and publish all sorts of nonsense. Learn to know the reliable sites or you will not have success.

Fluttermoth has given you three, all run by cichlid experts including biologists.

A marine biologist would know these things . Not really a biologist.


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[jredouard25]

Ok the fishes are getting returned for some guppies. Im upgrading to a 120 in like a week ( with pre-cycled media 24 pounds of it).


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[NickAu]

A marine biologist would know these things

Aquatic Biology includes the study of both freshwater and saltwater systems. Marine Biologists study saltwater organisms.

So no a marine biologist usually wouldn't know these things unless it was part of the degree they did.

 

[jredouard25]

Aquatic Biology includes the study of both freshwater and saltwater systems. Marine Biologists study saltwater organisms.

So no a marine biologist usually wouldn't know these things unless it was part of the degree they did.

My point is still correct smh.


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[Colin_T]

What about African Cichlids. Do they require hard alkaline and water.

In Africa there are cichlids that live in rivers that have soft acid water (Pelvicachromis and Nanochromis species), and there are fish that live in Rift Lakes that have hard alkaline water (mbuna, Pseudotropheus, etc).

Africa has 3 main Rift Lakes, Lake Victoria, Lake Malawi & Lake Tanganyika. Lake Tangayika has the hardest water (GH above 400ppm) and most alkaline pH (above 8.5). Lake Malawi has softer water but it is still hard and alkaline, and Lake Victoria has the softest water out of the 3 Rift lakes, but it is still hard and alkaline.

If the pH is above 7.0, it is alkaline.

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You can increase the general hardness and pH by adding Rift Lake water conditioners. These are designed to increase the GH of water so it closely matches the natural water in Africa's rift Lakes. Limestone, sandstone, coral and shells will all increase the pH and slightly raise the GH but they generally won't increase the GH enough for Rift Lake cichlids.

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Biology covers all living things on this planet but doesn't dedicate itself to aquatic life. Whereas marine biology covers everything aquatic, fresh, brackish and saltwater.

Biologists and marine biologists have a good knowledge of water chemistry and animal physiology and behaviour. Some marine biologists specialise in freshwater fishes, some specialise in marine organisms (corals, starfish, seahorses) and some specialise in marine mammals.

 

[NickAu]

You said

I studied 5 years on freshwater tanks and stuff before I bought my fish and stuff

Then Essjay asks.

What is the hardness of your tank?

And you reply with

Idk

If you studied for 5 years on fresh water tanks and stuff you would know the answer to this, Water parameters, things like dealing with ammonia, how to know if your water is soft or hard are the first things you learn.

You say you are using Seachem Prime.
Prime will bind ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate for 24-48 hours. At which point, if they are still present, they will be released back into the water.

Also most test kits can't tell the difference between bound and unbound ammonia.

But of course you know all this from your 5 years of study.

 

[jredouard25]

You said


Then Essjay asks.


And you reply with


If you studied for 5 years on fresh water tanks and stuff you would know the answer to this, Water parameters, things like dealing with ammonia, how to know if your water is soft or hard are the first things you learn.

You say you are using Seachem Prime.
Prime will bind ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate for 24-48 hours. At which point, if they are still present, they will be released back into the water.

Also most test kits can't tell the difference between bound and unbound ammonia.

But of course you know all this from your 5 years of study.

Ok irdc I already have what I need from this thread. Stop getting all butthurt salty mad just bcuz I proved you wrong and so did one of the other ppl. Bye!


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