75 Gallon Build - Large Goldies

[FishGuest5123]

Please don’t add the fancy goldfish. They should never go in with tropicals. I use to breed black moor’s. As Retired Viking said, they need much cooler water. They will find tetras and other small fish as tasty snacks. Goldfish belong with goldfish. One correction I’d like to make to what @PheonixKingZ said, fancies need 20 gallons for first and 10 for each additional. I have 2 tanks specifically set up as goldfish tanks. They are beautiful all by themselves. I limited my 75G to 3 fancies as my black moor is now 8” long. Keep that in mind when stocking. They do get big.

 

[Soric]

The more I look into this and based on feedback, I will just be doing just 3 Fancy goldfish and no other fish.
Everything I have read online is 20-30 gallon per fancy, and this is the main type of fish I was building for anyway above all else.

I adjusted title of post to reflect the planned stock.

 

[FishGuest5123]

The more I look into this and based on feedback, I will just be doing just 3 Fancy goldfish and no other fish.
Everything I have read online is 20-30 gallon per fancy, and this is the main type of fish I was building for anyway above all else.

I adjusted title of post to reflect the planned stock.

So glad to hear that. I have 14 tanks and the ones that everyone drool over are the goldfish tanks. Their size amazes people.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

So glad to hear that. I have 14 tanks and the ones that everyone drool over are the goldfish tanks. Their size amazes people.

Even I don’t understand how big they can get. It’s crazy that people keep them in bowls.

 

[FishGuest5123]

Even I don’t understand how big they can get. It’s crazy that people keep them in bowls.

It’s sad and they don’t live long.

 

[Soric]

Ive seen large fancies once in a store in Cape Girardeau. The were in the $50-60 each range.
I was amazed by them. That and my fondness of the Black Moor is the entire reason behind the build.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

Ive seen large fancies once in a store in Cape Girardeau. The were in the $50-60 each range.
I was amazed by them. That and my fondness of the Black Moor is the entire reason behind the build.

You see? I just love big fish.

 

[Fishmanic]

It even has lighting. Such a deal. First person that shows up with cash in hand will scoop it up. You snooze...you lose.

 

[Soric]

Advice requested.

What about Dojo Loaches, or a Bristlenose Pleco with the goldfish?

 

[FishGuest5123]

I have a BN pleco with mine. They do great together. Just remember that the BN has a large bio load also. I have my 3 fancies, one is my 8” moor and then the bn all in my 75G. They have lived together for going on 4 years now.

 

[Soric]

So I put concrete on my foam board this weekend (Pictures later).
Not 100% happy with it.
A lot of my detail I cut into was lost by the concrete. Either I just put it on too thick or I did not cut my foam deep enough in detail.
Not saying it is a loss, but I am thinking more long term here. Is this something I will forever be happy with.

I also have stock to worry about. I'm stocking 3 Large Fancies. One of them being a Black Moor. I am worried about potential damage from my design to the fins or eyes of the fish.
So save my background for a potential tropical tank at some point if I don't use it. Almost certain this is what I will be doing.

My two options:

A: A new background more friendly for goldfish. Stone or brick type of wall.
B: Traditional store bought background (The roll picture **** I have never been fond of)


Also substrate. Heavily leaning towards sand as its easier to clean. But feeding fancy goldfish with pellets, do I have to worry about sand getting in the gills etc?

 

[Soric]

Here is my background.
Like I am really not happy with it, the level of detail covered up. I should have cut deeper.

 

[JuiceBox52]

Here is my background.
Like I am really not happy with it, the level of detail covered up. I should have cut deeper.View attachment 107522

I think it still looks really good but I am a perfectionist so I completely understand

 

[Soric]

I think it still looks really good but I am a perfectionist so I completely understand

I purchased more foam and glue. Still unsure if I am going to try again.
Trying to keep the long term in mind.

 

[JuiceBox52]

I purchased more foam and glue. Still unsure if I am going to try again.
Trying to keep the long term in mind.

The worst you could do with making another one is deciding you need a second tank to put it in.