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[CFC]

I would strongly recomend employing a structural engineer to advise on whether the floor can take the weight before placing such a large tank on an upstairs floor, our downstairs floor sagged noticably when we filled up the 150 gallon tank in our frontroom, i certainly wouldnt feel comfortable placing any of my larger tanks in there.

If you can find them then a pair or trio of scobina would be ok for a tank that size, tankmates would need to be kept to a minimum though to keep the water parameters within safe levels for rays so avoid large fish that need to be kept in schools.

 

[CAC]

Do you think if i had a single Scobina (if i could get hold of one), then i could have some other fish in there too?

Also, if i had no ray, do you think i could have an Aro, and some of the tankmates i origially said could work?

Mikey

 

[CFC]

I dont recomend keeping rays on their own, i had my female motoro alone for around 18 months and she is far happier now with another ray in the tank to interact with. An Asian or black arowana could be kept with the rays along with a few other single fish such as the STF you like, an eel and a largish catfish or two, just dont go mad with stocking the tank.

 

[CAC]

I dont recomend keeping rays on their own, i had my female motoro alone for around 18 months and she is far happier now with another ray in the tank to interact with. An Asian or black arowana could be kept with the rays along with a few other single fish such as the STF you like, an eel and a largish catfish or two, just dont go mad with stocking the tank.

Allright, well 1st, i need to get back from my 2week holiday that starts on thursday, then ill find out how strong out floor is, and take it from there...
also, transport could be an issue...shes about 3-4hrs away, and id need to hire a huge van for the day...

That stocking would be amazing if i could do it! So your saying that and asian/black Aro, False tiger, Fire eel, and two Sorubim lima could live along with 3 Scobinas!!!
that would be unbelievable!
EDIT: wouldnt the eel need some wood for hiding etc.???
Mikey

 

[cane76]

thats starting to sound like a sweet set up i hope your floor is up to the job

 

[CAC]

thats starting to sound like a sweet set up i hope your floor is up to the job

So do i...
Would be awesome.
i havent heard back from the seller yet, so pics should come today....
Who would i go to to see weather my floors up to it?
Structural engineer?

 

[T1KARMANN]

the only aro that you could keep in a 2ft wide tank with other fish would be a asian green which you chould get for around £100-150

all the other fish on the list look ok

 

[CAC]

the only aro that you could keep in a 2ft wide tank with other fish would be a asian green which you chould get for around £100-150

all the other fish on the list look ok

I was thinking of one of those...because of its price, so incase of an accident, i woudnt lose 100's and also, i could get a silver, but id have to sell it, or an australian (Jardini or Leichardti) but they are too aggressive...
MIkey

 

[cane76]

ive got a 7-8" jardini you can have for £40 save me taking it back to lfs

 

[CAC]

Lol, and put it in what tank?
Got any photos of him/her?

Mikey

P.S anyone know how big Greens get, and what their care is? Is it same care as most other asian aros?

 

[cane76]

i posted a pic in the photo lounge

 

[CAC]

Im having serious doubts that the tank will not fall through the upstairs floor....
I mean its 3/4 tonne, in such a small space. It wouldnt go in the midle of the room, but its not a risk id want to take...
Ill ask an engineer or a builder or someone anyway though...

Mikey

 

[Fillet 'O' Fish]

Hi Mikey
CFC was right to recomend that you check with a Structural Engineer about your floor.

It just so happens thats what I do for a living

I would normally charge for this advice, but seeing as though you are a fellow fish keeper...here goes:

- All domestic houses are designed for an imposed floor load of 1.5 KN/m2. This is under building Regulations and British Design standards.

- Your tank in metric sizes is 2.13m x 0.61m x 0.61m = 0.792 m3 of water which weighs 7.92 KN

- The footprint of your tank base or stand is the same as the tank? Therefore 2.13m x 0.61m = 1.299 m2

- Therefore load imposed by your tank is 7.92KN divided by 1.299 m2 = 6 KN/m2

- Your floor is designed to carry 1.5 KN/m2, you are going to impose 6.0 KN/m2

- Ahhhhhhhh there goes the floor !!!!!

There are exceptions to this, if you put nothing else in the room on the floor and the floor is big enough, and you can spread the load further then you may be Ok, but this would be a long shot.

With regard to your ground floor, if its concrete ground bearing (not suspended) then you will be Ok. If its timber and suspended then the same applies as above.

Hopefullly you could follow the above, I tried to make it simple to follow.

Any other queries dont hesitate to PM me.

Regards

Brian

 

[CAC]

Ok thanks alot for that. That stubbs out the chances of that tanks then. Thanks alot though Fillet, it saves me a floor at least

Thankyou to everyone who helped, just a shame the plans cant go ahead...
Ill try to pursuade to have it downstairs, but thats highly unlikely!

Thanks again, Mikey

 

[cane76]

thats a shame who is selling the tank coz i might be interested