1x Puffer, 2x Keyhole Cichlids, 1x Pleco

[DarkEntity]

SAP's NEED crustacians constantly as they have the fastest growing teeth of all Puffers. They are freshwater and will do better in a sociable group

 

[pandacichlid]

Well. at least your not refusing to accept my opinion

Seriously though, go over to that site I suggested

And it's not just a case of "I have a few snails". Maybe for other puffers, but not these.
You'll need to be breeding them constantly, and feeding other hard-shelled foods.
It's a very serious problem with SAP's...

Doesn't anyone else agree with me??


Cheers,

Maximus

I have done my research on them and only asked if they were compatible with my other fish. I know your giving me advice, but I know they need snails for their teeth and yeah most puffers do well in groups but not tight groups social groups like you sed. It's turn into a whole differen't discussion now, don't you think? If I wasn't sure on how to care for them, I would've asked for all information on them. if they'd shred my cichlids then they wouldn't be classed as community?
I'll let you guys know who they get on! I feed 'em krill and live blood worm at the mo'.
Thanks for the advice tho'

 

[Maximus]

It's turn into a whole differen't discussion now

Actually, I think were still on topic.

if they'd shred my cichlids then they wouldn't be classed as community?

And thats my point, they are not community. They may get along fine now, but just wait until their adults.

If I wasn't sure on how to care for them, I would've asked for all information on them.

Again, it seems you hardly know anything about these. Or even what puffer you had.

most puffers do well in groups but not tight groups social groups like you sed

Wrong again. These are actually a shoaling fish in the wild.

I feed 'em krill and live blood worm at the mo'

Aaaaand again, this is not going to help your puffer at all. Bloodworm is a good food to be feeding them, but your not
including any hard-shelled foods. It won't be long before a thread pops up asking "How do I trim my puffers teeth"

I know your only trying to do the best for them, but your going the wrong way about it.
I'd either re-home the SAP, or re-home the other fish, and get another 2 SAP's.

It would be much better in the long run


Cheers,

Maximus

 

[pandacichlid]

It's turn into a whole differen't discussion now

Actually, I think were still on topic.

if they'd shred my cichlids then they wouldn't be classed as community?

And thats my point, they are not community. They may get along fine now, but just wait until their adults.

If I wasn't sure on how to care for them, I would've asked for all information on them.

Again, it seems you hardly know anything about these. Or even what puffer you had.

most puffers do well in groups but not tight groups social groups like you sed

Wrong again. These are actually a shoaling fish in the wild.

I feed 'em krill and live blood worm at the mo'

Aaaaand again, this is not going to help your puffer at all. Bloodworm is a good food to be feeding them, but your notincluding any hard-shelled foods. It won't be long before a thread pops up asking "How do I trim my puffers teeth" I know your only trying to do the best for them, but your going the wrong way about it.I'd either re-home the SAP, or re-home the other fish, and get another 2 SAP's.It would be much better in the long run Cheers,Maximus

Read what PUFFDADDY says, he knows more than you seem to, plus how many do you have of these fish? The person I bought these from bought them from one of the best breaders in the country and knows his facts. I'll seek advice from constuctive people next time. please find a quote from a site that says these amazon puffers kill cichlids, please?I don't think so no, because in a five foot tank they don't soal together what I've seen. I'll look it up and all the sources I've checked don't mention this, just in groups.excuse me, how many times have I sed that I have snails in my aquarium? Hard shells, and I think puffers do except krill and krill is hard food for them. It even says on the label hahaso you're telling me to rehome my fish?how many newbies on this site complain about ammonia and nitrites constantly? mine are all zero, my ph is suitable for them they like a range of ph anyway.they have snails for their teeth and I'll add other stuff for them too.PLEASE INFORM ME ON HOW THEY WILL EITHER GET KILLED BY MY KEYHOLES HAHA OR EAT MY KEYHOLES?sorry, but I feel that you don't listen to what I have been saying and some of your criticism harsh and not constructive, plus some advice to be fallacious. I'll take the advice! Thanks
maximus, look on youtube and search amazon puffer, you'll see it's community homed with mollys.

 

[timmystood]

...dwarf puffer(not the aggressive kind)...

There's no such thing!

 

[pandacichlid]

...dwarf puffer(not the aggressive kind)...

There's no such thing!

It's a amazon and for it's size it's a dwarf puffer? look it up m'friend. 3-4 inches is small!

 

[DarkEntity]

Read what PUFFDADDY says, he knows more than you seem to, plus how many do you have of these fish? The person I bought these from bought them from one of the best breaders in the country and knows his facts. I'll seek advice from constuctive people next time. please find a quote from a site that says these amazon puffers kill cichlids, please?

Are they dwarf puufers like you originally stated or are they actually Colomesus asellus? If they are Dwarf Puffers Carinotetraodon travancoricus then your Cichlids will eat them, having said that Dwarf Puffers are more aggressive than most people who dont keep Puffers realise. They will nip fins, sclaes and harrass your slow Cichlids until they get eaten themselves. If they are actaully SAP's then they should be kept in a shoal/group, they are one of the few sociable Puffers and do like being in a group and not a single species. Having said that there are no true community Puffers. Ive been bitten on more than one occasion by my Puffers just because they thought *wonder what that tastes like* even though they know im not food.SAP's definately need a stable diet of hard shelled foods, if you have a couple of snails its not enough, you need to feed them hard shelled stuff daily. I know a few people with SAP and one in particualr stated "i swear i can see their teeth growing while i watched them". If you have no experience and knowledge of Puffers which sounds about rite then id suggest speaking to Fella or Neale Monks as they have them or have kept Saps in the past.Another option if as you stated you have bloodworm/krill etc then feed these from granite or some other abrasive rock, this seems to work to wear their teeth also.

It's a amazon and for it's size it's a dwarf puffer? look it up m'friend. 3-4 inches is small!

So it definately is Colomesus asellus and not Carinotetraodon travancoricus. In which case its not a Dwarf Puffer.

 

[pandacichlid]

Read what PUFFDADDY says, he knows more than you seem to, plus how many do you have of these fish? The person I bought these from bought them from one of the best breaders in the country and knows his facts. I'll seek advice from constuctive people next time. please find a quote from a site that says these amazon puffers kill cichlids, please?

Are they dwarf puufers like you originally stated or are they actually Colomesus asellus? If they are Dwarf Puffers Carinotetraodon travancoricus then your Cichlids will eat them, having said that Dwarf Puffers are more aggressive than most people who dont keep Puffers realise. They will nip fins, sclaes and harrass your slow Cichlids until they get eaten themselves. If they are actaully SAP's then they should be kept in a shoal/group, they are one of the few sociable Puffers and do like being in a group and not a single species. Having said that there are no true community Puffers. Ive been bitten on more than one occasion by my Puffers just because they thought *wonder what that tastes like* even though they know im not food.SAP's definately need a stable diet of hard shelled foods, if you have a couple of snails its not enough, you need to feed them hard shelled stuff daily. I know a few people with SAP and one in particualr stated "i swear i can see their teeth growing while i watched them". If you have no experience and knowledge of Puffers which sounds about rite then id suggest speaking to Fella or Neale Monks as they have them or have kept Saps in the past.Another option if as you stated you have bloodworm/krill etc then feed these from granite or some other abrasive rock, this seems to work to wear their teeth also.

It's a amazon and for it's size it's a dwarf puffer? look it up m'friend. 3-4 inches is small!

So it definately is Colomesus asellus and not Carinotetraodon travancoricus. In which case its not a Dwarf Puffer.

I've stated so many times that they are amazon Colomesus asellus yes. My cichlids get along fine with them. you think aggression between them will occur and I know that severums live well with them and discus.
I have two now, but plan to have four all together in a group.
I have more than a couple of snails, I've sed that already
I'll add shells I'll buy more hard shell food too.
yeah I'll add more rocks cus they seem to like my bogwood for biting too.
thanks
it's small, but not a dwarf, get ya

 

[Maximus]

Right, I just spend my time replying, and my computer went tits-up.

So I'm not going to bother with it, But I'd like to thank DarkEntity for his input.

Just a side-note though:

The person I bought these from bought them from one of the best breaders in the country and knows his facts.

As far as I know, SAP's haven't even been bred in captivity

Oh and I've owned an SAP, C.irrubesco, DP's, and an arrowhead.


Cheers,

Maximus

 

[pandacichlid]

Right, I just spend my time replying, and my computer went tits-up.

So I'm not going to bother with it, But I'd like to thank DarkEntity for his input.

Just a side-note though:

The person I bought these from bought them from one of the best breaders in the country and knows his facts.

As far as I know, SAP's haven't even been bred in captivity

Oh and I've owned an SAP, C.irrubesco, DP's, and an arrowhead.


Cheers,

Maximus

Exactly, you can't justify your what you've sed. Well I know my lfs deals with the best in the breading business who probably got them imported, but wouldn't know.
all I know is that I'm doing it right. Why pick up on intricate facts that I've sed, all I care about is who I care for mine.

 

[DarkEntity]

Right, I just spend my time replying, and my computer went tits-up.

So I'm not going to bother with it, But I'd like to thank DarkEntity for his input.

Just a side-note though:

The person I bought these from bought them from one of the best breaders in the country and knows his facts.

As far as I know, SAP's haven't even been bred in captivity

Oh and I've owned an SAP, C.irrubesco, DP's, and an arrowhead.


Cheers,

Maximus

I was going to say that also, there are very very few Pufers that have bred in captivity. I know of 2 people who have bred Arrowheads and Dwarf Puffers thats it.

Also have i missed the actual tank size these are all in?

 

[Maximus]

Exactly, you can't justify your what you've sed.

Don't provoke me.

I was simply going to point out how little you even think you know,
your rambles I couldn't understand, and the fact that you carn't accept blatent advise for your own good.

 

[DarkEntity]

What is the actual tank size? length, depth height etc?

im interested as you seem to have a fair few fish in there that might push you into overstocked by a fair bit.

 

[pandacichlid]

Exactly, you can't justify your what you've sed.

Don't provoke me.I was simply going to point out how little you even think you know, your rambles I couldn't understand, and the fact that you carn't accept blatent advise for your own good.

haha mate, you didn't even explain the cichlid situation, why? cus it's not true.no mate, I've accepted all the other advise, but you go on like you're an expert when you're evidently not.the cichlid comment makes me laugh!the most peaceful of cichlids will eat my amazon puffers, please?they are community, fact.

What is the actual tank size? length, depth height etc?im interested as you seem to have a fair few fish in there that might push you into overstocked by a fair bit.

I have one albino pleco who is only 4cm, and two keyholes who are 4cms each and my two puffers. four feet my friend

 

[Esfa]

the cichlid comment makes me laugh!

HAHA!! now that made me laugh!

Almost all of your posts made me laugh

"The size makes it a dwarf"

Wrong! the dwarf puffer is a species. That like saying a baby lion is a domectic cat, because its small.

"From one of the best breeders"

Right. Does he happen to live in the river where the puffers come from?

Haha, you "mate" are a joke.