SIP, my big momma shrimp, mother of colonies. Establishing first colony is hard!

I'd love to have over 60 tanks and actually open a fish shop of my own. Get a betta tank! A 10 gallon, with sponge filter and a heater and you will have the happiest betta ever. And they're so curious!
I am thinking of gradually phasing out the guppies. Much as I love them, dealing with constant fry is a lot of work, and limited space forces some choices. Will keep some special favourites and let them retire and live our their lives, while all fry go to LFS. Once guppy numbers are down, I can think of converting one of the tanks to a betta home. Nice planted 15 gallon should make for a happy betta :)
 
I am thinking of gradually phasing out the guppies. Much as I love them, dealing with constant fry is a lot of work, and limited space forces some choices. Will keep some special favourites and let them retire and live our their lives, while all fry go to LFS. Once guppy numbers are down, I can think of converting one of the tanks to a betta home. Nice planted 15 gallon should make for a happy betta :)
I had the fry problem too with my guppies, moved the plain ones to my RES turtle tank, The fancy guppies have had a few fry too but it has not gotten out of hand like it did with the plain ones. I also have 13 platy fry that appeared in my other 30 gallon tank the day after I put George and Martha (m/f platy) in to it. I was using it as a QT tank since there was only a old ghost shrimp and some snails in it. I was planning on redoing that tank but those plans are on hold. The platy fry are so cute.
 
The platy fry are so cute.
Livebearer fry are too adorable, it's true. I think it's those huge eyes, relatively big head, trailing down to a tiny wisp of a tail. They're so teeny, but so active at the same time! I bred all of the adult guppies that are in my tanks now, so they will still be producing fry for a while to come, so just planning to enjoy them. Then again, even after I made the decision that I would gradually phase out guppies, I ended up getting a new female guppy from the store, simply because she was so unusual looking for a female guppy, and I had to have her. Then something I'd never heard of happening before - my male guppies completely ignored her. They carried on chasing the other females, but ignored my new yellow female! Seemed a shame for her not to have fry, so I wound up getting a yellow snakeskin male to put in a quarantine tank alone with her to see if he'd like her. He apparently fell in love, since even though they're both back in the community tank, have never seen another male court her, and he is usually spotted courting her or near her. Sweet!

So yeah, phasing out guppies isn't happening so quickly, considering I'm still buying and setting up a guppy pair! Sunshine, the yellow female I couldn't resist buying, since I'd never seen a female guppy with such a yellow body before. My females are a grey/olive green colour, so she really caught my eye.
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My usual females look like this. This is one of my favourite girls, still searching for a name for her, if anyone has any suggestions!

Since my males ignored Sunshine, I needed to find her a fella.
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He adores her, and it looks as though the feeling is mutual.
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Ooops, argument maybe?
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Lastly, couple of happy little otos with very round, full bellies after algae wafer night.
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Those are very beautiful guppies, love the colors, I started out with a pair, he had a very bright orange tail she had a little orange in her too. The LFS only sells guppies in pairs unless you are buying feeder/plain guppies. I bought another pair a week later and they threw in another female. Now I have around 25 fancy guppies with my 2 platy. They are in my LOTR tank.
 
This is my "fry" tank, sorry my pictures are not as great as yours. :dunno:
Never apologise for photos, I love seeing pics of tanks! And I can see an adorable little platy fry! Plus that tank looks huge, lucky little guys have lots of space to swim and get strong, and must help keep water parameters stable. Love the big windows out there. Must mean you have to clean the tank glass a lot, but gorgeous big windows with lots of natural light is something I really envy about US homes. Being a little island nation with a tendency towards cold rainy weather, houses were built with insulation in mind rather than lots of light, so windows tend to be smaller here.
 
I live in the northern part of Wisconsin where we get the Canadian freezing cold winters and arctic freezing cold winds out of the north. . The windows in my house are double pane windows, that bay window faces south. It really helps warm up the house on cold sunny winter days. I always have extra heaters for my tanks in case one goes down.
 
If anyone else is struggling to wrap their head around water hardness, kH, gH and pH, I just found this video from Aquarium Co op pretty helpful for explaining the basics and some numbers in simple terms, for chemistry dunces like me!

@essjay, I'm sorry,I forgot to reply and thank you yesterday :oops: Thank you for checking those numbers for me, and explaining what was important for me to know! I'm always impressed by people who are good with maths, physics and chemistry. It's just an area that my brain struggles with. I always excelled at English, art, biology and social sciences, but I'm so terrible with mathematics, my brain just freezes up and shuts down. Chemistry seems overwhelming to me with all those numbers and symbols, so it's easy to get lost! Doing my research now though on these water measurements, specifically so I can create a stable soft-water tank.

Curious for those who keep soft water tanks for soft water fish, how do you grow plants successfully, without making the water too hard for the fish to feel comfortable? Is it a matter of striking a balance?
 
Have also ordered API's gH and kH testing kit, and a calcium testing kit, since in that video, they said that hard water might in fact be all magnesium, and low in calcium (Already have the API master test kit). Planning to do some tests with rainwater, water that has had an airstone running in it for 24 hours, and the tanks over time. I use indian almond leaves in my tank too, want to see what effects things like that and cholla wood have over time.

Mid-term, buying RO water to mix with my tap for the otos to have a softer water tank.

Long term, hoping to save up and get an RO water filter, so I can maintain a hard and a soft water tank. I planned to always have otos since I like them so much, and just read that bettas are a soft water fish too, as are others I'd love to have sometime. I'm sorry I was frustrated yesterday. I'm sure we've all been there when new to the hobby, and coming up against another stumbling block, or when finding out the things you were told before are all wrong! There's so much to learn. Usually I enjoy the learning and the challenge, but it has been a hard few weeks here with other losses. I needed to take some deep breaths and look at how to fix it. I so appreciate all the help and advice.
 
@AdoraBelle Dearheart Don't worry too much about the conditions your Otocinclus are housed in, Ideally they are soft water fish and it would be ideal for them to housed in such conditions but many people successfully keep them in less than ideal.

Stable parameters are far more important and most soft water fish will quite happily adapt and live a long and healthy life. Some aquarists will disagree completely with this but from my experience of housing Otocinclus they will be perfectly happy with clean, fresh water once or twice a week depending on your stocking levels.

Its obvious that you keep good tank husbandry and that is credit to yourself, they could be in a far worse situation.
 
Brilliant that they've bred, sorry that they seem to have stopped! I'm too new to shrimp to have any idea why that might be I'm afraid. Maybe some new blood might help? They might just be bored with each other and need some new skrimps to wake 'em up!
Unlike livebearers shrimps won't just keep breeding until the tank bursts. Even though it sometimes looks that way the population will not grow out of control. They slow down as the tank fills. If you move some of them into a new tank they will be straight back at it. I sometimes go through stages of 3-4 months where I don't see a single berried female and then suddenly it all kicks off again. @AdoraBelle Dearheart, don't grieve to long over your momma, they have fairly short lives and as you have seen give back a lot.

I wouldn't bother about diversity unless you are breeding for show or sale. My colony has been going over 3 years. I started with 10, 3 died in the first week and then one day I had lots. After about a year I thought I had killed them all (I still don't know how or why). I did a few large water changes and a few weeks later a few tiny shrimplets came out of wherever they had been hiding. Now I am back into the hundreds. No health issues or deformities. There are a few quirks (imperfections if you are a breeder or showing) that I have seen carried from generation to generation but they are all healthy and thriving.
 
Have also ordered API's gH and kH testing kit, and a calcium testing kit, since in that video, they said that hard water might in fact be all magnesium, and low in calcium (Already have the API master test kit). Planning to do some tests with rainwater, water that has had an airstone running in it for 24 hours, and the tanks over time. I use indian almond leaves in my tank too, want to see what effects things like that and cholla wood have over time.

Mid-term, buying RO water to mix with my tap for the otos to have a softer water tank.

Long term, hoping to save up and get an RO water filter, so I can maintain a hard and a soft water tank. I planned to always have otos since I like them so much, and just read that bettas are a soft water fish too, as are others I'd love to have sometime. I'm sorry I was frustrated yesterday. I'm sure we've all been there when new to the hobby, and coming up against another stumbling block, or when finding out the things you were told before are all wrong! There's so much to learn. Usually I enjoy the learning and the challenge, but it has been a hard few weeks here with other losses. I needed to take some deep breaths and look at how to fix it. I so appreciate all the help and advice.
I have had issues with my anacharis since reducing the water hardness with RO but my ferns do well and the sword plants get what they need from root taps. I add 1/2 dosage of flourish comp the day after water change. My salvinia seems to be doing well too. When I just had hard water my jungle vale would melt away . I may try jungle vale again and see if I have better luck in soft water.
 
@AdoraBelle Dearheart
[...]Stable parameters are far more important and most soft water fish will quite happily adapt and live a long and healthy life. Some aquarists will disagree completely with this but from my experience of housing Otocinclus they will be perfectly happy with clean, fresh water once or twice a week depending on your stocking levels.

Its obvious that you keep good tank husbandry and that is credit to yourself, they could be in a far worse situation.

This means a lot to me, thank you! I'm really happy to hear that you think I'm doing a good job with husbandry. There's always room for improvement, naturally, but it can be hard to take in so much information, along with differing opinions, and always question what you're doing! Fish keeping seems to be relatively newly studied, with new information about different species being published, opinions changing, and others disagreeing, loudly, lol. It's like if you look up information about keeping betta fish! Lots of persistent myths out there, newer information has been published, and people will argue about whether they can be kept with other fish or not all day long. Many here saying absolutely not, never! Others arguing that they've done it for years successfully. I've read about how bettas live in their natural habitat, but searched without success for film or documentary type info about how they live in the wild, if other fish of different species share the same water etc. Many scientific papers are behind a paywall. So then it comes down to a matter of common sense combined with personal opinion, and making your own mind up. I'd be upset if someone who knows better kept them in an unfiltered, unheated 2.5 gallon bowl, but not going to yell at someone if they have a healthy looking betta in a 10 gal with some raspboras. To me, not many people will have a flawless set up. A pretty good tank with some flaws doesn't mean they're a terrible fish keeper and the fish should go.

At the moment, my otos look really good to me. They're active, eat well, school together, and have chubby little round bellies anytime they're suckered to the glass. Seeing the difference between my original four I got in November compared to the new four I picked up in May/June really showed me the differences between a thriving oto and a struggling, stressed and hungry one. My LFS isn't a bad one, I promise, but clearly being wild caught, shipped, then put into shop tanks that don't have an established algae coat and relying entirely on algae wafers is rough on the poor guys. I didn't examine the oto tank closely when I bought them, I just asked how long he'd had them for, and asked him to bag four for me.

Drip acclimated them when I got home, then got a better look at them. One had the damaged tail, but don't know if that happened when netted or in shipping. Was concerned for bacterial or fungal infection since the top half was gone right up to the body, so kept the water very clean with plenty of water changes. I did lose that one after a week. They all looked so small and skinny compared to my original four. When they suckered to the glass, their bellies were absolutely flat, which worried me since mine were always rounded no matter if they'd just been fed or not. Overall body shape wasn't as filled out as mine, and their colours were more muted. I didn't quarantine these, because I was concerned they would't get enough algae and biofilm to eat without being in an established tank, since mine seem to do nothing but graze and take little rests all day, then play and school at night. I think shipping and being in a clean tank in a shop for a month, only being fed once or twice a day really had them so skinny and stressed :(

Within a few days though, they all had the round bellies, and now after the newer batch have been been there for two months, I can't tell the difference between them and the four that have been in there for nine months. I hope the hard water isn't doing long term damage to their kidneys, but at least for now, they're not stressed, starving or dying off, and aside from the harder water than ideal, it's a little oto heaven, lol. I deliberately cultivate some algae in the tank for them and the shrimp, have lots of plants with hiding places, and they love the Indian almond leaves when you snap them and curl them so it's like a little cave, and they eat whatever biofilm and micro creatures the leaves produce.
Also give them a variety of extra foods. I keep a log of everything that is going on in my tanks, like maintenance, births and losses, so will continue to monitor them and see how long they live for.

I'll keep working on how to do soft water though, since I'd love to try to breed Otos one day. If we as a hobby can figure out how to get them to breed more readily in captivity, we can stop them being wild caught. Sorry for the essay ranting, I just haven't been able to talk to anyone else who is interested in fish for a long time, have a lot of stuff to get out, lol.
 
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