oh wait im thinkin this is the thread on how to start spike where the OP doesnt want to wait i thought it was missing something lol. well i still stick with what i said..IF he doesnt want to wait months for the spike to start. if he dont mind waiting then yeah just add live rock and maybe a CUC to help it along a bit. why is my way so bad then... no fish died and it started my spike within a week or 2. seems pretty good to me.