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[kizno1]

tetras can be a bit nippy so know and evan 1g is still to small 3 is the very very min but 5 is better so ither get a 3g or take the betta back

 

[Oscar Betta]

Yes, that would work.

 

[betta989]

can i have a tetra and a betta togeather he is not a hocky stick

 

[Oscar Betta]

Yea, but watch them and make sure the tetra and betta don't fight.

 

[betta989]

hmm ok hes just neon

and hes pretty old so yeah about 2-3 years

ill scoop him into a cup of there water and take him up there =)

you've been good to me guys ty ty ty ty

and inch dont worry we werent fighting

 

[Honeythorn]

Actually bettas may be more happy in 2.5 gallons because they don't like a bunch of empty space.

Which is why you're supposed to plant heavily with either silk or real plants regardless of tank size. In the wild they come from heavily vegetated waters with lots of leaves and stems and plants. If you just dump a betta into a sparse or bare 5 gallon then he's obviously not going to like it. That's rather like dropping an agoraphobic in the middle of an open field. The tank should have plenty of plants and a cave or hollow ornament ect for him to hide if he wants to. It isn't rocket science.

5 gallons is not a massive amount of water or a huge tank in any way shape or form. A 5 gal hexagonal tank takes up 12 square inches , it can fit on a small table in a corner for example, that's where I had mine. An Aquastart 320 5 gallon takes up just under 14 square inches. It can fit on a desk or worktop easily.

I've measured these and done it myself so I know I'm not wrong. Even the smllest apartment or flat has up to 14 square inches of space somewhere.

Betta989 - NO, bettas and tetras are not suitable tankmates. Tetras are nippy fish and very often chew the long fins of bettas. Also, your tetra should be in a bigger group. They are quite nervous little fish and like to be in groups of 8 or more. You'd need at least a 10-15 gallon tank for such a group. You should not put the neon with your bettas at all.

1 gallon is not remotely big enough for even a neon tetra if that is what you have him in. It definitely is not big enough for a betta and certainly not two .

In my last post I mentioned a lot of ways and places to get a bigger tank and also how to set up an easy and cheap tank using a storage tub. It would be a lot kinder to all your fish , and would make less work for you in looking after the setup, if you were to take that advice.

 

[kizno1]

agree with everythink Honeythorn said

 

[jasminekiddell]

I couldnt agree with Honeythorn more!
Oscar Betta, You only end up with a bunch of empty space if you dont fill it! Thats why you buy big leafed plants and lots of plants for the bettas to rest on!
Also the more water the easier it is to handle ammonia levels.

 

[Haych]

NO, bettas and tetras are not suitable tankmates. Tetras are nippy fish and very often chew the long fins of bettas. Also, your tetra should be in a bigger group. They are quite nervous little fish and like to be in groups of 8 or more. You'd need at least a 10-15 gallon tank for such a group. You should not put the neon with your bettas at all.

as musch as i agree tetras can be nippy, bettas can be kept with them too, i have a betta in a community tank, and hes left alone, the tetras keep to their groups and shylo keeps to himself too

imo, its trial and experience, and down to each fish's personality

 

[Honeythorn]

Individual fish are all well and good, and there's always one or two who gets on and it works out, but as a general practice they are strongly reccomended not to be kept with tetras at all due to the consequences, same for danios, angels ect. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I've seen bettas kept with tetras in stores and had virtually no tails left. Very few indeed were undamaged in some way. It's safer and easier to go with well known experience of many years from many fishkeepers and facts rather than the luck of an individual or two.

But the more pressing concern with the OP is the tank sizes. That tetra needs to be in a group, and a group needs a tank of 10 gallons or more, plus the bettas need 5 gals each or a 10 gal divided.

 

[Oscar Betta]

Actually bettas may be more happy in 2.5 gallons because they don't like a bunch of empty space.

Which is why you're supposed to plant heavily with either silk or real plants regardless of tank size. In the wild they come from heavily vegetated waters with lots of leaves and stems and plants. If you just dump a betta into a sparse or bare 5 gallon then he's obviously not going to like it. That's rather like dropping an agoraphobic in the middle of an open field. The tank should have plenty of plants and a cave or hollow ornament ect for him to hide if he wants to. It isn't rocket science.

5 gallons is not a massive amount of water or a huge tank in any way shape or form. A 5 gal hexagonal tank takes up 12 square inches , it can fit on a small table in a corner for example, that's where I had mine. An Aquastart 320 5 gallon takes up just under 14 square inches. It can fit on a desk or worktop easily.

I've measured these and done it myself so I know I'm not wrong. Even the smllest apartment or flat has up to 14 square inches of space somewhere.

Betta989 - NO, bettas and tetras are not suitable tankmates. Tetras are nippy fish and very often chew the long fins of bettas. Also, your tetra should be in a bigger group. They are quite nervous little fish and like to be in groups of 8 or more. You'd need at least a 10-15 gallon tank for such a group. You should not put the neon with your bettas at all.

1 gallon is not remotely big enough for even a neon tetra if that is what you have him in. It definitely is not big enough for a betta and certainly not two .

In my last post I mentioned a lot of ways and places to get a bigger tank and also how to set up an easy and cheap tank using a storage tub. It would be a lot kinder to all your fish , and would make less work for you in looking after the setup, if you were to take that advice.

I know if you fill it in, they will like it, but lots of people don't fill them in.

 

[Honeythorn]

Which is why the bettas don't like it , and then they see that and take it that the fish hates being in a bigger tank ( as opposed to a bare one ) , which invariuably leads to them stuffing the poor thing back into it's deathtrap because " he likes it better in the small space". When all they had to do was get some real or silk plants to fill up one or two corners of the tank or half to 3/4 depending on the shape of it. Is that really such a terrible chore?

This further perpetrates the myth that 1 and 2 gallons is in some way a normal body of water to keep a fish in safely as a permanent home and it isn't.

The smaller amount means ammonia and nitrites accumulate quicker, the tank size does not fit most commercially availble heaters and filters wich makes it even more of a pain to keep as a set up, and the fish has a lot less actual swimming space than it should.

Sure it can survive, everything has a survival instinct so it will do it;s level best to keep struggling on. But since most people DO have space for a bigger tank or 5 gal tub setup ( see the space sizes I mentioned for 5 gal tanks ) , there is no logical reason to have a small, harder to maintain tank.

The OP has a great fish there, but because of poor advice he/she is now running the risk of losing them to disease due to keeping them in a tank that is far too small. I'm not the only person here who thinks 1-2 gallons is too small, and I for one have given a good list of viable options and sources of getting a cheap tank of a decent manageable size for both the home and the fish.

 

[GuppyGoddess]

Hi,

Keep in mind, for a smaller tank it's very important to limit the amount of substrate (gravel) in the bowl/tank because that takes room away from every drop of water the fish needs to keep his home clean.

The best thing to do is get a 2 or more gallon bowl and put a silk plant in the middle and a light sprinkling of gravel down to help hold the plant in place.

 

[Honeythorn]

Or just get a bigger tank or storage tub to begin with and save a whole lot of bother.

 

[GuppyGoddess]

I have a betta in a 2gal tank, and i got blasted in my own thread for its size. Do your water changes, check your levels, and monitor the health/activity of your fish. If he's really not happy, move him. If hes fine...he's fine.

I'd like a huge house too, but I can do fine in my apartment.

Yep, I get flamed all the time for one of mine being in a 2-gallon.

Generally for smaller betta homes, I think aside from limiting the substrate to create more water space, it's important NOT to do 100% water changes daily because that causes little bubbles to appear on the inside of the tank and decor. Anyone notice that? It can cause gas bubble disease. I while back someone posted a photo of a betta with a bubble on it's tail and THAT was what caused it.

You have to create balance between low ammonia and other factors that keep the betta happy/healthy.