ok i got a pair M/F an 2weeks ago the female died on me as i was trying to find out what was wrong with her. Now the male seems to have the same problem. So lets get rid of bad water condistions, Ammonia 0 nitrites 0 nitrates 3 PH 7.2 KH 4 hardness 3 2Pwc's weekly 1 full gravel clean. Ok, so this fish is like having problems swimming,looks like from his dorsel fin back, has lost motor control. He looks humped over an almost in a vertical position from the dorsel back, an seems not to be able to use his tail while swimming. The female had the same symtoms, an i could not find anything to compair with for treatment. Closest thing i seen was swim bladder or dropsy, but all the symtoms or not there. I checked the female when i died an i cound not see anything exturnally wrong with the . But it was not eating an had a real thin stomach area. Thx in advance, T