why has my oranda goldfishs belly gone so big in 1 day

[cheddercheese10]

hi everyone i webt to my dads on friday night and ive just come back a day later and my oranda goldfishs tummy is very big like my other oranda who are both in the sane tank it wasnt that big the other day is this normal or has something happened

 

[LyraGuppi]

Could you provide a picture of the fish, and details about their setup?
Are the scales sticking out, like a pinecone?

 

[cheddercheese10]

no nothing sticking out and its normal its not behaving differently or anything but not as bad now fir some reason

 

[fluttermoth]

We still really need more detailed information about your set up before we can help you.

How big is the tank, how long has it been set up, and is it cycled? How big and how often are your normal water changes? Do you have test kits for your water? Exactly what fish do you have? What are you feeding them?

 

[cheddercheese10]

its ok now its not as bad now thanks anyway
28l

 

[fluttermoth]

I'm afraid that's far too small for goldfish. Are you able to test the water? The chances of toxins reaching dangerous levels, in such a small volume of water, is very high.

 

[cheddercheese10]

yeh the waters all fine but howcome they sell goldfish bowls

 

[cheddercheese10]

and i have 2 orandas and ive got a few things in there when they get bigger
ill take a few of them out

 

[fluttermoth]

yeh the waters all fine but howcome they sell goldfish bowls

What were the actual numbers from the tests? 'Fine' is not enough information to go on.

Because people used to think it was okay to keep goldfish in bowls. But now we understand that it's cruel, because the fish can't swim around or grow properly.

You can still buy them, in the same way you can buy rabbit hutches and hamster cages that are also too small for a fully grown animal; you're supposed to either do your own research and know they're not suitable, or upgrade as the animal grows.

Your fish won't live long, happy, healthy lives if you keep them in such a small tank. It's about space to swim and volume of water; no amount of decorations or plants you take out can make your little tank suitable for goldfish.

Please bear in mind, we're only giving you the best, most up to date advice. It's up to you if you want to take it or not. No-one here is going to come around and force you to rehome these fish, or buy you a bigger tank. They're your fish and your responsibility, and it's up to your conscience to do the right thing, or not, as the case may be...

 

[cheddercheese10]

yes thank you for the advice and I do get what ur saying and my goldfish are small and my tank is quite big and my fish seem to love it they look happy and healthy

 

[Essjay]

28 litres is very small. My main tank is 180 litres and I consider that to be medium sized.
Your orandas will grow to about the same size as your tank.

 

[fluttermoth]

yes thank you for the advice and I do get what ur saying

I really hope you do; we only want what's best for your fish.

I hope you don't find what I'm going to say too harsh, but I feel it has to be said.

and my goldfish are small

They're only small because they're babies. They should grow into big fish.

Except your fish won't get the chance to grow that big, because they'll become stunted or die due to toxic water conditions. You couldn't physically fit a filter that could cope with the waste from two goldfish in a 28l tank.

and my tank is quite big

28l is not 'quite big. It's very small. I have water change buckets bigger than that. My smallest tank is 23l, and it houses ONE small betta (maximum adult size around two inches, with a slim body, so does not produce much waste). My two fantail goldfish (maximum adult size EIGHT INCHES, and deep bodied, so produce a LOT of waste) live in a 150l, and I would upgrade that, if I thought they needed it.

And it's not just me that thinks this. You've already had essjay say the same; how about the awareness raising group "It's Not Just A Fish"?

http://injaf.org/aquarium-fish/the-goldfish-section/what-size-tank-for-goldfish/

Or these goldfish specialists?

http://thegoldfishtank.com/goldfish-care/tank/do-goldfish-need-a-big-tank/

Or maybe you'll believe the RSPCA?

https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/fish/environment

and my fish seem to love it they look happy

How would you know? What does 'happy' even mean if you have the brain the size of a fish's? Anyway, fish have evolved not to show signs of distress or disease, because it attracts predators.

and healthy

And yet you started this thread because one of your fish was sick.

As I said in my last post, it's up to you and your conscience what you do, but please don't come here and tell us that everything's all right when it absolutely isn't.