White Spots On Mollies?!

JohnRossDele

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i have 4 mollies in my 240 L, check the sig, i had swordtails before and they all had white spot at the time i didnt know how to treat it then i went on holidays then when i came back they were all dead!!

it is more visable on the 2 black ones
the spots are even on the eyes
& I have read that if u have black ghost knife & clown loach u have to use the medication at half strength

anyone have any ideas :unsure:

PS LFrog i think that was harsh since i didnt mean any of this to my fish i dont put the parasites in there but i certainly try to prevent it

Im ringin' all my LFS's today to see if they will rehome the oscar is that not good enough for u!!
 
You have got to be one of the most frustrating people I have ever met, and believe me when I say that this time it's taking me every ounce of self control I possess not to write every profane and offensive word in my vocabulary, hit Post and be done with you. I am trying to help you for the sake of your fish only, because I seriously doubt that anybody else will as we have learned the utter futility of giving you any advice.

I Cannot Believe that you left on holidays with sick fish in your tank and did nothing to try to help them, not even isolating them to prevent the spread of the disease. That rivals the stupidity of putting an oscar in a plastic bag because it behaved naturally - AFTER we had been telling you for two weeks to get rid of it.

It appears to me that you are essentially a person who doesn't give a #### about his fish. We have told you, time and time again, that the vast majority of the fish in your tank are unsuitable and need to be rehomed. Besides the fact that they grow too large and will be miserable if you try and keep them, several of them are predatory. Since you're capable of forming a cohesive sentence, I can't believe that you're honestly too stupid to understand when we tell you that the oscar and the eels WILL EAT YOUR OTHER FISH. They are PREDATORY. In the wild, that is what they do: they hunt down and kill other fish to eat. It is ludicrous to expect them to behave any differently because some selfish human comes along and puts them in a tank.
If you really wanted any of your fish to survive at all, or cared about them enough not to want them to have drawn out and painful deaths, then you would have done SOMETHING about trying to find new homes for them by now. It's been at least a month since people started telling you they needed to go, and since then, to my certain knowledge you have killed several mollies, several swordtails, two beautiful black ghost knives, and seriously, probably permanantly, harmed that oscar.

All in all, you seem to care far more about having exactly what you want in your tank and to hell with the fact that the fish are totally and utterly incompatible on a biological level. Right now, if you went to the local shop and bought six bottles of bleach and did a water change with them, it would be a more humane way to die than what you're currently doing to your fish. Any person who can treat an animal like this without making any effort to help it is seriously in my bad books, so I hope that you (and the moderators) forgive my bad language. I'm doing my best. I will try to refrain from ranting any more:

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Whitespot (ich) is an opportunistic disease. This means that it usually attacks fish that are already weakened, usually because they are stressed or have been sick with something else. It isn't hard to see why the mollies and swordtails would be stressed out in a tank that is ridiculously overstocked, almost certainly not cycled, and where they are chased around by several bloodthirsty predators who want to eat them.

Whitespot is a parasitic protozoan that burrows under the skin and feeds on teh blood of the fish. The flesh and skin that it's burrowed out goes white and sits on the surface as a spot. It can be killed by increasing the temperature of your tank considerably and adding a whitespot remedy. You're probably essentially screwed, because if you dose the medication at full rate you will kill the loach and remaining BGKF, but if you half dose it, then it's not going to fix the whitespot. My recommendation is that you remove the mollies into a hospital tank and treat them at full dosage there, but due to the sky-high stress levels of every single fish in that tank, and the ridiculous number of these parasites that will now be in the gravel (the midpoint of their lifecycle) due to you leaving sick fish in there until they died of the disease, you don't have much chance of preventing a full tank ich outbreak. If that happens - well I hope the fish die quickly, because it's probably kinder than what will happen to them living with you.
 
You have got to be one of the most frustrating people I have ever met, and believe me when I say that this time it's taking me every ounce of self control I possess not to write every profane and offensive word in my vocabulary, hit Post and be done with you. I am trying to help you for the sake of your fish only, because I seriously doubt that anybody else will as we have learned the utter futility of giving you any advice.

I Cannot Believe that you left on holidays with sick fish in your tank and did nothing to try to help them, not even isolating them to prevent the spread of the disease. That rivals the stupidity of putting an oscar in a plastic bag because it behaved naturally - AFTER we had been telling you for two weeks to get rid of it.

It appears to me that you are essentially a person who doesn't give a #### about his fish. We have told you, time and time again, that the vast majority of the fish in your tank are unsuitable and need to be rehomed. Besides the fact that they grow too large and will be miserable if you try and keep them, several of them are predatory. Since you're capable of forming a cohesive sentence, I can't believe that you're honestly too stupid to understand when we tell you that the oscar and the eels WILL EAT YOUR OTHER FISH. They are PREDATORY. In the wild, that is what they do: they hunt down and kill other fish to eat. It is ludicrous to expect them to behave any differently because some selfish human comes along and puts them in a tank.
If you really wanted any of your fish to survive at all, or cared about them enough not to want them to have drawn out and painful deaths, then you would have done SOMETHING about trying to find new homes for them by now. It's been at least a month since people started telling you they needed to go, and since then, to my certain knowledge you have killed several mollies, several swordtails, two beautiful black ghost knives, and seriously, probably permanantly, harmed that oscar.

All in all, you seem to care far more about having exactly what you want in your tank and to hell with the fact that the fish are totally and utterly incompatible on a biological level. Right now, if you went to the local shop and bought six bottles of bleach and did a water change with them, it would be a more humane way to die than what you're currently doing to your fish. Any person who can treat an animal like this without making any effort to help it is seriously in my bad books, so I hope that you (and the moderators) forgive my bad language. I'm doing my best. I will try to refrain from ranting any more:

________

Whitespot (ich) is an opportunistic disease. This means that it usually attacks fish that are already weakened, usually because they are stressed or have been sick with something else. It isn't hard to see why the mollies and swordtails would be stressed out in a tank that is ridiculously overstocked, almost certainly not cycled, and where they are chased around by several bloodthirsty predators who want to eat them.

Whitespot is a parasitic protozoan that burrows under the skin and feeds on teh blood of the fish. The flesh and skin that it's burrowed out goes white and sits on the surface as a spot. It can be killed by increasing the temperature of your tank considerably and adding a whitespot remedy. You're probably essentially screwed, because if you dose the medication at full rate you will kill the loach and remaining BGKF, but if you half dose it, then it's not going to fix the whitespot. My recommendation is that you remove the mollies into a hospital tank and treat them at full dosage there, but due to the sky-high stress levels of every single fish in that tank, and the ridiculous number of these parasites that will now be in the gravel (the midpoint of their lifecycle) due to you leaving sick fish in there until they died of the disease, you don't have much chance of preventing a full tank ich outbreak. If that happens - well I hope the fish die quickly, because it's probably kinder than what will happen to them living with you.

nice on there that was a OWNAGE!
 
I eaused the temp to 28*C and i am going to go to the LFS today and get a remedy for it use it for a week at half strength so ill at least keep it out of the tank & if that dosn't work im gonna move them to my hospital tank also im doin a water change for more chance to flush it out!
 
I eaused the temp to 28*C and i am going to go to the LFS today and get a remedy for it use it for a week at half strength so ill at least keep it out of the tank & if that dosn't work im gonna move them to my hospital tank also im doin a water change for more chance to flush it out!

I'm no expert but for god sake man what the hell are you doing with an oscar and eel in that tank? Please for the love of god tell me they're not in that tank anymore. You obviously did not read up or take anyones advice on this site about your stocking. If I didn't care about the fish I would tell you that you deserve to come home to all of them being dead or gone except the oscar and eel to prove that they don't belong in a tank with those other tank mates. My god man if you're going to keep fish at least get a book so you have somewhat of a clue to what you're doing. So now you got ick and you leave without treating it so it now has probably spread throughout the tank so don't be surprised if you see it start popping up on a bunch of the fish in your tank. Not to bright my friend not too bright at all.
 
Please listen to members john. There just worried about your fish that's all.
We all make mistakes it correcting the mistake that counts.
Please rehome some of your fish once the whitespot gone.

Tne best advice is to research fish before you buy as lfs don't always tell the truth.

Whitespot.
Fish can soon break out in whitespot if there stressed.
Whitespot looks like the fish has been sprinkled in salt.

Treatment.

Raise temp to 30 and increase aeration. As the high temp and med reduce 02 in the water.
Read med instructions carefully that you can use the full dose with the fish you keep.
Remove black carbon from filter if you use it.
 
Doing water changes isn't going to get rid of it, the med at half dosage MIGHT stop it from spreading but I've got my doubts. Just because you can't see white spots on all of the fish does not mean the whitespot is gone or that it will stop spreading. At one point in the life cycle of the parasite it lives in the gravel and there will be no spots on the fish... if you get complacent or stop the med at that point, it will come back.
 

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