White Spot

[Michael Buckley]

Ok, I will try to be a good newbie since I deal with lots of them on other topics. I will write lots of detail.

We (well my little sister) has a fish tank. It is about 10 gallons. As first we had it one the back deck, it a fairly wide deck and completely covered, we though that would be ok, but the temp changed too much and we got lots of algae after 2 weeks so we moved it inside. The heater has kept it at 26C constantly since, and the algae has not been to much of a problem. And the filter, it is a bubble box one with wool it it, has had an easier job keeping it clean.

We added the fish a few days after we set it up, no cycling we had not been told to do that. We go one guppy, 5 neons, a platy, and 2 silver teras. I wish we did a cycle now.

After two weeks and losing 2 neons, we got 12 more fish. 5 neons, 4 guppies, 1 dwarf gourami and 2 clown loaches. Since then the death toll has risen to 10 all the guppies and 5 neons, I now think from an ammonia spike and because the silver teras were nibbling the guppies and neons tails, we took them back and got two more guppies in exchange. The remaining neons tails have started to grow back, and the look a lot healthier.

The tank is 5 weeks (and two days) old now, so I think we have got past the run in stage. But now we have white spot on the loaches. We got some stuff to treat it and it went away, I think it was what also killed one of the guppies, it had white stuff around one fin so it could not move it. Now it is back, about a week after I thought it was gone. The loaches have it and one guppy again so it can't move a fin. I not so concerned about the loaches they look besides that very healthy, the have just started to actively come out for food at feeding time right up to the surface, and not just noseing around the bottom of the tank. They have gone a lot darker in there back patches which I have read is a sign of good health.

But I cam concerned about this guppy, how can I beat this white spot for good?

Sorry about the long post, it is a lot longer than I expected.

Thanks
Michael

 

[PaPeRo]

If it is ICH you will likely have to treat the whole tank for a week or two because there will likely be a lot of them floating around and on the bottom of the tank which will reinfect your fish. You also might want to read this thread first.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=128879

 

[Michael Buckley]

Hay thanks for that link. I will try keeping the the treatment for two weeks, having loaches makes treating the guppy hard though, I can only use half the dose.

 

[PaPeRo]

Hay thanks for that link. I will try keeping the the treatment for two weeks, having loaches makes treating the guppy hard though, I can only use half the dose.

Try medications that are safe for scaless fishes like Kordon's Rid Ich+.

 

[Michael Buckley]

I will have a look at the two pet shops we go to for that (or something like it) if the problem persists.

 

[skeat_12345]

hi another way u can get rid of white spot is to turn up ur temp to 84 deg and run the tank at that temp for about 3 weeks (only ever turn it up by 1 deg an hour or u will kill ur fish) at 84 deg white spot cant survive.

 

[Michael Buckley]

The tank is 26 C (that is 79 deg for all those that don't use metric). The white spot has almost disappeared from the clown loaches, and the guppy can almost flap its fin again. The fish must be healthier this time around, it has taken three days on the fish this time, last time it took a week. Now time to try and kill this stuff.

 

[draugrnz]

clown loaches if i remember rightly are more prone to getting white spot because they are scaleless fish, best thing is prevention....very clean water which means over filtration and plenty of water changes.

I know this has nothing to do with the topic, but your fish are gonna get very stressed out eventually being in a 10g with 2 clown loaches because they grow quite big so your tanks gonna be overstocked.

 

[Michael Buckley]

I have tried saying to my dad that the clown loaches will get too big, but he does not think so. We will just have to wait till they are too big, so we have to get another tank.

 

[draugrnz]

lol well thats one way of getting a bigger tank good job lol. Just hope they don't get to stressed before he relises.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

chances are they won't get too big, they'll get stunted, stressed and die

they grow to 12" and need to be kept in groups of 6+. they are slow growing so you have plenty of time to convince your dad to get a bigger tank, but they will definately need one.

 

[Michael Buckley]

the guppy with white spot died.

The clown loaches are looking very healthy, but at 2" there small enough for the tank, kind of. Their black has got a lot darker, and the white spot has left them. Now to make sure it don't come back. I would like to get a large group of them along with a school of neons in a large tank. How big do you think a tank should be for say 7 clown loaches?

EDIT: I worked out the exact size of the tank it is 12 gallons

 

[Miss Wiggle]

the guppy with white spot died.

The clown loaches are looking very healthy, but at 2" there small enough for the tank, kind of. Their black has got a lot darker, and the white spot has left them. Now to make sure it don't come back. I would like to get a large group of them along with a school of neons in a large tank. How big do you think a tank should be for say 7 clown loaches?

EDIT: I worked out the exact size of the tank it is 12 gallons

about 125g+ your looking 6'x2'x2' for a group of clowns. and I wouldn't keep neons with them, when they get big it'll be a tasty snack

 

[Michael Buckley]

Not sure were I would put a tank that size, but I want it, so I gonna get it.

Oh well no Neons then

Also we have one snail in the tank, should we remove it. Or is it ok to keep it.

 

[draugrnz]

you can remove it if you like, but eventually it'll be food for your clown loaches