White Spot Wiped Out Tank..........?

[PJGoblin]

HELP NEEDED......IN THE UK

I have had the tank setup for about 2 year and have been very lucky not to of had any problems until now....!

Over the last month had a good sort out and got rid of some larger fish and want to replace with small soaling fish.....lots of....!

Luckily, not alot of fish as I am just stocking up tank with new fish..

I have problem with white spot(small salt grain like spec) I noticed it on some new neon tetras the day after putting them into tank, I know should have quarantine tank set up...( just got one..!)
probelm was I have not long bought some baby red cherry shrimp only 0.5cm long very small. (most treatments will kill them.)
I checked the net for for solution and couldnt see anything to treat them so I have now removed them.

I have used "waterlife protozin" in the end, check and double checked the right levels.
Before started treatment did water change.

I have treated day 1-2-3 all the time fish looking and acting odd,
lost 2-3 day 1,
lost 6-7 day 2,
lost 13-14 on day 3 not may left only 1 neon and 6 rummey nose tetras and a large plec.
Fish not looking very good and the tank looks like its got dandruff white flakes and bits everywhere.
Havnt treated yet on day 6 thats tomorrow, cant see that it will do any good.

What to do next.....! :

1.Do I remove remaining fish.?
2.100% water change.?
2.Can ich lay dormant in empty tank for a week or so.?
3.Shall I try different treatment have heard different types of ich harder to kill.?
4.Does white spot effect the shrimp.?
Have got some carbon filters, how long before its safe to put shrimp back in tank(in breeding net)..?

 

[AdamM]

With the shrimp what you would do is slowly turn up the heat by a few degrees each hour until it is over 86degrees F. Then start adding a small ammount of deionised salt at a few tea spoons over the course of a few days, this should kill most strains of whitespot.

 

[GAB99]

do what adam is doing and it should go away

is the tank cycled?

stats plz.

remove any carbon

try using natural meds along with the salt and temp.

 

[WILDER]

How many gallons or litres is the tank.
How many fish and which type did you have.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

Are you using the full dose of the waterlife med.
Have you increased aeration.
Did you remove black carbon from filter.
Have you raised temp to 30.

Don't add salt neons don't tolerate it towell.


Whitespot won't survive without a host.

Leave fish in main tank.
Do a gravel vac and water change.
Just add the correct amount of med back to water removed.

 

[PJGoblin]

How many gallons or litres is the tank.
How many fish and which type did you have.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

Are you using the full dose of the waterlife med.
Have you increased aeration.
Did you remove black carbon from filter.
Have you raised temp to 30.

Don't add salt neons don't tolerate it towell.


Whitespot won't survive without a host.

Leave fish in main tank.
Do a gravel vac and water change.
Just add the correct amount of med back to water removed.
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Hi Wilder

The tank size is 45 gallon
Stock : 2 cory
6 rummey nose tetra
20 neons
6 red cherry barbs
1 large plec
all water level were great no probs been good for some time no change.
Checked treatment levels several times and are correct.
I did abit of research and up temp slowley to about 28`, turned up aeration to suit.
I am using have "tetratec 1000" 4 piece sponges only.

all neons dead hit them hard, some rummey nose looking bad again and only 1 course of treatment left will need to get some more and double treat.

So what should I do....?
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leave fish in tank, but still do gravel and water change. I have done gravel and water before last treatment...?

Turn up temp & air and then treat agian.

Will corys and plec be ok with treatment(read on line they can suffer with it olready lost 1)

What do you mean about just add the right amount of med back to water removed.........?

 

[WILDER]

Sorry about the neons. R.I.P.

Get temp up to 30. The fish will be fine if there plenty of aeration.
It can take two rounds to get rid of whitespot.

If you have to preform a water change during a med course you just add the correct amount of med back to the water removed.
So if you remove 2 gallons of water, add the correct dosage of med back for 2 gallons.

 

[PJGoblin]

Hi Wilder

Shrimp in separate bucket they are ok not a problem.

Just removed plec and 2 cory put them in "new" quarantin tank left 4 rummy nose left in main tank to treat.

Treated plec and corys with dose of salt solution in seperate tank.
(Water tanks and bucket all over the place the wife NOT Imprested.........DOH.....LOL....!)

The main tank has had a 1/3 water change and removed a layer of gravel from the bottom agian ready for traetment.

I am now bringing the temp up to 30` and turned aeration up ready for stage or day 1 of treatment later tonight when up to temp.....!

See how it goes, is their anything else I need to do that I may have forgoten...?

Failing this I am thinking of removing remaining fish and starve treat the tank and keep empty for week or so to be confidant they are gone.......!

BIG BIG learning this for me, dont want to have this again, just lucky the tank wasnt fully stock.....!

Regards

PJGoblin

 

[WILDER]

There nothing more you can do now.
The only thing is corys and plecs don't tolerate salt towell.

 

[PJGoblin]

Hi Wilder

Thanks for you advice, will dilute water in the plec, cory tank just to be sure.

Can i put shrimp (breeding net) in with the plec/ cory quarantine tank with it being salted even when diluted...?
Currently in takaway tray...(dont laugh) havent got anywhere to put them......mmmmmm lol what can i do with them...? abit stuck or will they be ok in a bigger container just do regular small water changes...!

Cheers

PJGoblin

 

[WILDER]

Not sure on shrimp and salt i'm afraid. I won't keep shrimp as they freak me out lol.
Ask in the invert section of the forum.