What Shrimps Do I Have?

[fishmad_f]

Hi guys,
I just wud like you to help me identify my new shrimp!!!
The female has a dark brown band on the back, with a single light coloured band running in between from head to the fan(tail). She is carrying eggs, that are dark brown in colouration right now? I got it from my friend who also doesnt know what type it is. The size isnt more than the red cherry shrimp I have.


fishmad_f

 

[GoldLenny]

Here are some shrimp sites with lots of pics. See if any of these look like yours and let us know.

http/www.petshrimp.com/shrimpspecies.html
http/www.azgardens.com/shrimpfactory.php
http/www.franksaquarium.com/freshwatershrimpfarm.htm
http/www.petshrimp.com/shrimpspecies.html (you have to click each link to see pics)
http/www.aquariumfish.net/indexes/critters.htm (you have to click on the far-right arrow next to the shrimp name to see info, pics and sometimes little videos)

 

[fishmad_f]

Thanks for links,
But according to what i have seen, is that my shrimps look between amano and black midget shrimp!!!
Can these too breed to form a hybrid?

fishmad_f

 

[GoldLenny]

They are both from the Caridina species, Amano - Caradina japonica, Black Midget - Caridina serratirostris, so I guess there is a chance but I would suspect yours is simply an Amano shrimp since they are so much more common.

How long is your shrimp now? Amano's grow to 1.5"+ depending on sex. Black Midget's grow to 3/4".

Some more reading on Amano's...
http/www.suiso.com/v2/modules.php?name=N...ticle&sid=2
http/www.aquariumadvice.com/profiles/8_20_en.html
http/caridina.japonica.online.fr/English/

Like all shrimp (and fish for that matter), you may find conflicting information about their best care. Always err on the side of caution and check things out further on the specifics of the conflicting information.

When I did a Google search for images of both species, there were 336 hits for Amano images and only 1 for Black Midget images.... just to give you an idea of how much more common Amano's are.
Review the images on this Google Image search to verify yours is an Amano. http/images.google.com/images?svnum=50&a...amano+shrimp%22

 

[fishmad_f]

I really appreicate your respons and help buddy!!!
thank you so much

fishmad_f

 

[Miss Wiggle]

correct me if i'm wrong but don't the Cardinia Japonica come in different colours and things like the cherry red (or is it crystal red??) shrimp are still Cardinia Japonica. If this is the case then don't be surprised at all if yours has slightly unusual colourings, it'll be some sort of hybrid between colour morphs

 

[GoldLenny]

http/www.petshrimp.com/shrimpspecies.html shows many of the shrimp species commonly used in aquaria.

Caridina Japonica is ONLY the Amano Shrimp. Many of the others are from the same Caridina family or Neocaridina family but they are not Caridina Japonica. Of course, scientific names are subject to changes so Caridina Japonica could be something else next year. Many of the other Caridina sp. are actually breeding variants of Caridina serrata.

 

[three-fingers]

Actually, there hasn't been such thing as Caridina 'japonica' for quite a while now, the 'Amano' shrimps real name is Caridina multidentata

 

[GoldLenny]

According to who? Every reputable shrimp site I referenced still call them C. japonica. But I did point out they could change. I've seen it happen so many times... especially with catfish/pleco's.

Cite a source please so I can update my favorites folder.

Actually, while typing this, I did a Google and the changed name does seem to have happened but it has not been "quite a while". Here is a snip I found in a Practical Fishkeeping Magazine online article... http/www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/...m.php?news=1078

Caridina japonica was described in 1892 by De Man, however, the study says that this species is the same as Caridina multidentata, which Stimpson described 32 years earlier in 1860. As a result, Caridina multidentata is a senior synonym of Caridina japonica, so the newer name - japonica - has been dropped and the Amano shrimp is now called C. multidentata.

This study that resulted in the name change was published around September, 2006.

Googling "Caridina multidentata" yields 969 unfiltered hits. Googling "Caridina japonica" yields 40,600 unfiltered hits... so C. japonica will be around for a long long time in trade talk .... but in either case, C. japonica/C. multidentata are not the same as the other species asked about.

 

[three-fingers]

Didn't mean to ridicule or anything, on the contrary, I just found it pretty cool that you predicted the name would change before even reading that it had .
I thought you might have wanted to know you were right about the name changing .

My ' ' was missed from the end of my post for some reason though, so I understand why you may have interpreted it differently from how it was intended to sound .

Most shops and websites arent likely to ever change it for a while unfortunatly, because comparatively few people know of the amano shrimp as C.multidentata.

 

[GoldLenny]

I didn't take offense or consider it ridicule. I just wanted a source. I try to always have reliable sources for anything I tell someone when it comes to their fish or in this case, shrimp. I still haven't found the actual study that resulted in the change but I trust Practical Fishkeeping Magazine to not print something that hasn't been vetted properly.

 

[GoldLenny]

Actually... I just set my mind to it again and found the study. It was actually published in August 2006, not September as I previously mentioned.

http/apt.allenpress.com/aptonline/?reque...26&issue=03

http/apt.allenpress.com/aptonline/?reque...3&page=0392

 

[fishmad_f]

Guys your discussion is really great, wish i had that much knowledge of any species available in scientific terms!!!
Thank u so much for helpling me out!!!
Here i m posting link to my shrimps, i have the images uploaded, i apologise for the poor quality of pictures
Shrimps pics

 

[Invader Xan]

Hmmm...

27042007082 is almost definitely an Amano.
27042007092 probably is as well.

27042007090 looks like it could be a cherry? If so, that pale reddish colouration will get deeper once he settles in.

27042007087 looks a little milky, unless it's a trick of the light. Keep an eye on him, because it could indicate a health problem. Alternatively, it could be a different caridina species which is just a little pale.

All shrimp turn a little pale during transit. If they're happy, you can tell by how deep their colours become.


All the ones I can see look like either cherries or amanos. They're all definitely either caridina or neocaridina.

 

[GoldLenny]

fishmad_f,

It's not hard to find the information. It just takes a little Google search and refining the search to find the info. A GREAT place to find really good information on most fish and critters is http/fish.mongabay.com and put in the name in the search box and you will usually find a very good profile on the fish and at the bottom of the profile, there will be reference links for lots more info. Mongabay is by far the best overall site for profiles out of anywhere else on the internet. http/www.Fishbase.org is another great site but the profiles are not as easy to understand. They are more for the researcher rather than the fish keeper. Mongabay profiles use Fishbase.org profiles as a basis for many of their profiles.

If you go to my blog, on the right side is a list of topics and click the "Fish Profiles" link and you will find my blog articles with lots of other information on looking up profiles on your fish/shrimp/etc.