kaz petts
Fishaholic
What is the lowest temp you can house tropical fish in
What is the lowest temp
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Which fish?
kaz petts
Fishaholic
eeerm, good question I suppose.
If I decided to go tropical I suppose I would get neons to start with as they are what a friend advised.
I am thinking about going tropical eventually in a few years time but thought I would start research early as I don't want to make the same mistakes I have done with my coldwater fish.
I would like to have a couple of parrot fish and the odd betta eventually as I think these are beautiful.
If I decided to go tropical I suppose I would get neons to start with as they are what a friend advised.
I am thinking about going tropical eventually in a few years time but thought I would start research early as I don't want to make the same mistakes I have done with my coldwater fish.
I would like to have a couple of parrot fish and the odd betta eventually as I think these are beautiful.
Hi
Sorry but your current selection is not ideal the parrots wil leat the neons the fighter will be bit to shreads by the parrots.
If going tropical then you will require a heater to keep the fish at the correct temperature. It is not a question of what is the lowest temp to keep them in but should be asked what is the ideal temperature for these fish.
Hope I have helped and also well done for donig your homework before buying the fish you would be suprissed the number that dont.
Hope I not put you off but it is better now than later when you have fish which could die this would then put you off
Sorry but your current selection is not ideal the parrots wil leat the neons the fighter will be bit to shreads by the parrots.
If going tropical then you will require a heater to keep the fish at the correct temperature. It is not a question of what is the lowest temp to keep them in but should be asked what is the ideal temperature for these fish.
Hope I have helped and also well done for donig your homework before buying the fish you would be suprissed the number that dont.
Hope I not put you off but it is better now than later when you have fish which could die this would then put you off
kaz petts
Fishaholic
Thanks for that info AquaUk.
I have learnt my lesson the hard way when it comes to doing homework before getting fish. I have had loads of problems with my cold water fish, which I am just sorting out now.
Before I can get any tropical fish I need to bring my hubby round to my way of thinking. There are so many different kinds of tropical I would like.
I thought if I did manage to bring hubby round to my way of thinking I would start off with a small tank about 10 UK gallon, a heater, a light, some plants specifically for warmer temps, gravel, a filter (don't know which would be best UGF or submersable something like a fluval, advise on this would be appreciated). Then cycle the tank for a week. Only when the tank has been cycled would I introduce any fish. I would probably start with neons as they are cheap, if I don't have any problems with them I would then look into getting other fish.
Can neons and bettas go together. I know that you cannot put 2 male bettas in the same tank (or is this something different???)
Thanks again for advice.
Will do my homework on this subject properly and will probably buy a few books as well.
Kaz
I have learnt my lesson the hard way when it comes to doing homework before getting fish. I have had loads of problems with my cold water fish, which I am just sorting out now.
Before I can get any tropical fish I need to bring my hubby round to my way of thinking. There are so many different kinds of tropical I would like.
I thought if I did manage to bring hubby round to my way of thinking I would start off with a small tank about 10 UK gallon, a heater, a light, some plants specifically for warmer temps, gravel, a filter (don't know which would be best UGF or submersable something like a fluval, advise on this would be appreciated). Then cycle the tank for a week. Only when the tank has been cycled would I introduce any fish. I would probably start with neons as they are cheap, if I don't have any problems with them I would then look into getting other fish.
Can neons and bettas go together. I know that you cannot put 2 male bettas in the same tank (or is this something different???)
Thanks again for advice.
Will do my homework on this subject properly and will probably buy a few books as well.
Kaz
cometcattle
Go Hawks!
You dont want to start w/neons, they are very sensitve to water conditions.
Cheese Specialist
Newbie
The lowest I'd keep tropical fish is at 75F. Why do you want to know this? You will have to buy a heater either way.
Oh, I agree with the post above. Neons are not good fish for starting the tank with. If it has a matured filter (like one that's been running in your coldwater for a while
) that will be a good help and you can add neons quicker than otherwise IMO.
Good luck with the new set up.
Oh, I agree with the post above. Neons are not good fish for starting the tank with. If it has a matured filter (like one that's been running in your coldwater for a while
) that will be a good help and you can add neons quicker than otherwise IMO.Good luck with the new set up.
kaz petts
Fishaholic
Thanks guys and gals
I will be doing a lot of homework before going into this field.
More to the point I need to get hubby to agree that me having another tank with fish is a good idea!!!!!
I will be doing a lot of homework before going into this field.
More to the point I need to get hubby to agree that me having another tank with fish is a good idea!!!!!
thecichlidaddict
Fish Herder
Keep in mind when setting up a tank blood parrots (I'm assuming you mean the hybrid fish and not the authentic parrot cichlid) are big, fat fish, and so need reasonable sized aquariums, nothing less then 40 gallons for an adult is best.
Even tropical fish can handle temps of less then 70 for limited periods, but naturally they should be kept in water between 75 and 80 on a regular basis.
Here are my suggestions
•Start off with a larger tank, you won't regret it. More water volume means a more stable aquarium. More space means more room for more and/or bigger fish, and more space for plants to grow in. Check out the 20 gallon long style tank (12x30" footprint) it's an excellent smaller sized tank.
•Avoid UGF filters. They are outdated. They make great biological filters, but they can't be cleaned. Over time dirt and sludge builds up under the filter plates and causes a degradation of water quality. Power filters are pretty inexpensive, very effective, and easy to maintain. Since the only part of these filters that are submersed is the intake tube, they don't take up valuable aquarium space either.
•From the fish you want in the tank I also suggest avoiding Neons. There are better choices of schooling fish that are more hardy and tough enough to handle the more aggressive fish you are looking to put in the tank (betta's, gouramis, blood parrots...)
Even tropical fish can handle temps of less then 70 for limited periods, but naturally they should be kept in water between 75 and 80 on a regular basis.
Here are my suggestions
•Start off with a larger tank, you won't regret it. More water volume means a more stable aquarium. More space means more room for more and/or bigger fish, and more space for plants to grow in. Check out the 20 gallon long style tank (12x30" footprint) it's an excellent smaller sized tank.
•Avoid UGF filters. They are outdated. They make great biological filters, but they can't be cleaned. Over time dirt and sludge builds up under the filter plates and causes a degradation of water quality. Power filters are pretty inexpensive, very effective, and easy to maintain. Since the only part of these filters that are submersed is the intake tube, they don't take up valuable aquarium space either.
•From the fish you want in the tank I also suggest avoiding Neons. There are better choices of schooling fish that are more hardy and tough enough to handle the more aggressive fish you are looking to put in the tank (betta's, gouramis, blood parrots...)
kaz petts
Fishaholic
Ok thanks everyone for your feedback on this subject.
I need to look at some of the smaller fish then that are not going to get too big. I know there are some nice ones out there but I obviously need to go to a very good LFS which I can trust so they can help me sort out which fish will go together and not be too big.
What kind of plants to use (would like to use live plants as I think they look nicer).
I will landscape the tank before adding water. I will then cycle the tank for a week making sure temp is constant and then choose the fish once I know water in tank is ok and free from ammonia and nitrite.
Thanks again.
Kaz
I need to look at some of the smaller fish then that are not going to get too big. I know there are some nice ones out there but I obviously need to go to a very good LFS which I can trust so they can help me sort out which fish will go together and not be too big.
What kind of plants to use (would like to use live plants as I think they look nicer).
I will landscape the tank before adding water. I will then cycle the tank for a week making sure temp is constant and then choose the fish once I know water in tank is ok and free from ammonia and nitrite.
Thanks again.
Kaz
thecichlidaddict
Fish Herder
This statement leads me to believe that you may not understand what cycling is.
The cycling of an aquarium is the growth of bacteria to convert ammonia and nitrite to a less harmful form - nitrates. There is no exact time that it takes to cycle a tank, and the aquarium can't cycle until ammonia is introduced into the tank. Just having the aquarium running empty for a week is not actually accomplishing anything.
kaz petts
Fishaholic
Yeah found that out the hard way when setting up my other cold water tank.
I didn't really say what I meant in the last statement. Obviously I will check all parameters before introducing any fish.
Any more helpful advice on cycling will be useful though. Should I use any thing particular in the tank apart from dechlorinator or is this wrong as well.
Like I say I will research first so I don't make any really stupid mistakes.
All comments and suggestions welcome (I will even accept a comment which may appear harsh to some readers as long as it is constructive.)
Thanks all
Kaz Petts
I didn't really say what I meant in the last statement. Obviously I will check all parameters before introducing any fish.
Any more helpful advice on cycling will be useful though. Should I use any thing particular in the tank apart from dechlorinator or is this wrong as well.
Like I say I will research first so I don't make any really stupid mistakes.
All comments and suggestions welcome (I will even accept a comment which may appear harsh to some readers as long as it is constructive.)
Thanks all
Kaz Petts
thecichlidaddict
Fish Herder
/fish.orbust.net/cycling.htmlNidge
Fish Herder
Ye i agree dont go below 75F
gixer
Fish Addict
they will deffinatly eat the neons but deffinatly not shread the betta. where did you get this info or experience?
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