What Fish Might A Wild Betta Come Across?

Just a note re: chinese algae eaters. They are indeed found in the same countries as bettas, but are generally found in fast moving streams, rivers, etc. They can survive in more stagnant conditions, but it is far from ideal; if you want to see a VERY happy CAE, give him his own 20g long with plenty of fine sediment to hide under, a fast current, plenty of filtration... and a food for omnivores.
 
::nods:: But of course; the differences in environmental needs are much too vast. Not to metion that bettas are nosey fish, and CAEs like to eat nosey fish...
 
First I must say "thankyou!" to everyone that's replied. I would have replied earlier, but my computer decided to break down… :unsure:

Sylvia:
Obviously, rasboras are probably the safest fish to keep with bettas. Many barbs are nippy or too active, and the latter is also true of danios which, also, compete with gouramies, like bettas, for space in the upper water layers.

Yes, barbs are very nippy! A lesson learnt just from watching them in the LFS. Harlequin rasbora would be a good "little" fish for in there.

the kuhli and dwarf chain loach would work well with bettas
:lol: Already got one of those! The dwarf chain loaches are lovely fish!

OohFeeshy
Wild which betta?

I was thinking along the lines of a nice plakat girl?

lljdma06

I'd also make sure that your tank is at least 20g or larger to make this work. Would be a pretty tank, especially if planted with SE Asian plants (crypts, java fern, java moss, Asian ambulia, etc). Of course, now it becomes a biotope.

Yes, a biotope is exactly what I’m planning upon! ïŠ About 15/18 imperial gallons is what I’m thinking of buying, so plenty of room. My only worry is if the floor can take it! ;)

That’s some very nice raspboras pica_nuttalli! I agree, very charming!

fishkiller_nomore:

What's commonly seen in the canals? Golden Apple snails

They sound good! Unfortunately, snails are hard to find in my local area (apart from the pesky ones that sneak in amongst the new plants and take over!) so I feel a trip up to Newcastle might be in order! ïŠ
All the plecs I’ve ever had have managed to grow to about 8/10 inches, so they’re a bit bigger than any possible tank might hold!

wuvmybetta
here are some of my favorite articles on the subject..
http://www.siamensis.org/survey/default.asp
...scroll down to the English versions.
my favorite
http://www.siamensis.org/survey/s026e.asp

Thankyou very much for the links! Lots to think about in those.

RandomWiktor
Just a note re: chinese algae eaters. They are indeed found in the same countries as bettas, but are generally found in fast moving streams, rivers, etc. They can survive in more stagnant conditions, but it is far from ideal; if you want to see a VERY happy CAE, give him his own 20g long with plenty of fine sediment to hide under, a fast current, plenty of filtration... and a food for omnivores.

sylvia
...and don't put a betta with it!


RandomWiktor
::nods:: But of course; the differences in environmental needs are much too vast. Not to metion that bettas are nosey fish, and CAEs like to eat nosey fish...

Oh no, I definitely would not put a Chinese algae eater in there! Apart from the difference in conditions, most of the ones I’ve known of deserve to be housed on their own.

Once again, I must say thankyou! You’ve given me lots to think about, and a much firmer idea of what to aim for in my tank!
 
Don't forget that any betta other than a wild caught non-splendens species will never have seen the wild, so it's not gonig to bother it too much if it wouldn't come across that fish or plant.
 
Yes, a biotope is exactly what I’m planning upon! ï￾Š About 15/18 imperial gallons is what I’m thinking of buying, so plenty of room. My only worry is if the floor can take it!

That’s some very nice raspboras pica_nuttalli! I agree, very charming!

If a very large fat man is able to live in the kind of house/apartment you have, I'm sure the tank will be okay. You could always calculate how much the water would weigh if you're still feeling "ify."
 
Working out a rough idea of the weight from the volume of water measured in Imperial Gallons is very easy:

Imperial Gallons x 10 = Weight in Pounds so...

18 x 10 = 180 lbs and if you like your metric units...

Weight in Pounds / 2.25 = Weight in Kilograms so....

180 / 2.25 = 80 kg


You should be fine with a tank that size on the second storey of your house or if you happen to live in a flat above the ground storey although I should add that I'm not a qualified surveyor so don't take my word as gospel :) . If you are concerned and wish to be safe then check to see which way the joists run under the floorboards and try and arrange the tank along a joist or try and bridge it, if you have to position it perpendicular to the joists, so that there is a joist under each end. Unless I'm mistaken, this will help to ensure the weight is spread to and supported by the load bearing walls.

Oh and for those of you that might want to know: To convert your U.S. Gallons to Imperial you simply multiply by 4/5. Then you can follow the other steps to easily work out your weight of water.

For a change, it's nice to see someone concerned that the tank they are thinking of getting for their betta is gonna be too big :lol:.

Good luck with the new tank. :)
 

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