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i have a 30gal long or a 55gal corner witch is better?
i want to keep some african cichlids. i was thinking a few electic blue, maybee a few electic yellow.
i would also like something orange in the tank... ideas?
would it be posible to breeed these fish with them all together?
also besides the ones i named if they are not sutible what should i put in the tank?


sorrry for all the questions.
alll the help u have is greatly apprecated.
-matt (forgive spelling errors)
 
The 55G would be better as it would give you a few more stocking options.
Malawi Cichlids will breed although you may not have a lot of fry survive as they get eaten, so provide plenty of rockwork to give them a better chance.
If you are planning on breeding, then stick to one species as they will interbreed with each other.
When you say electric blue, do you mean Sciaenochromis fryeri?
If so, then they should be fine although they can reach 7".
Electric yellow, I'm assuming, is Yellow Labs? If so, then they would be perfectly fine.
As for other suggestions, what fish are available to you?
 
i have a 30gal long or a 55gal corner witch is better?
i want to keep some african cichlids. i was thinking a few electic blue, maybee a few electic yellow.
i would also like something orange in the tank... ideas?
would it be posible to breeed these fish with them all together?
also besides the ones i named if they are not sutible what should i put in the tank?


sorrry for all the questions.
alll the help u have is greatly apprecated.
-matt (forgive spelling errors)

Neither tank is really 100% suitable for mbuna such as Yellow labs which you refer to as "electric yellow". Once again, not sure about "electric blue" as many african cichlids can fit this name. If you absolutely had to pick a tank however, I would go with the 30 gallon long. Mbuna means rock dwelling and that is exactly what these fish do, they prefer the foot print of the tank, so a corner tank really is not ideal at all. If I were you I would just wait and go for a 55gallon 4 foot long tank. They really aren't that expensive, I got one for 40 bucks off craigslist.

As far as the actual fish you are planning on stocking this with. If you do go with a 30 gallon, I would not recommend any type of mbuna such as "electric yellow". The minimum size tank for these fish would probably be a 4 foot long tank at least. If you did end up stocking this tank with mbuna, only one species would be ideal, and you would have to end up moving them after time because they will outgrow the tank.

If you do end up getting a larger aquarium, a good orange colored cichlid you may consider would be a "red zebra" they are called red zebras, but are a very orange color. You could also consider Ps. Saulosi, the males of this species are a striped blue, and the females are a very nice orange/yellow color.

As far as breeding, yes you can breed these different species of fish, but it is highly recommended that you do not do so. If you do end up breeding different species creating "hybrids" you should never distribute these back into the system. Hybrids destroy the hobby for all of us as they dilute the gene pool of our fish.

Hope that helped. Also here is a cookie cutter setup for a 30ish gallon tank if you decide to go with that. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/cookie_cutter_29g.php

The 55G would be better as it would give you a few more stocking options.


Not so for the mbuna he is naming, the foot print of the aquarium is actually more important. The height hardly makes much of a difference.
 
A 30G long would be fine for Yellow Labs provided they were the only ones in the tank.
IMO, a 55G corner tank would also be fine provided you stuck to no more than 3-4 types in the tank.
I realise the footprint is important which is why I feel the 55G is more suitable.
 
IMO, a 55G corner tank would also be fine provided you stuck to no more than 3-4 types in the tank.

4 species of mbuna are way too many for a 55G corner tank which probably doesn't even reach 3 feet in length. 4 species is even too many for a 55G Long tank, unless doing an all male stocking. Like I said, you shouldn't be looking at the gallonage, but the footprint of the tank. DepthxLength is what matters for mbuna.
 
Again, I realise that.
If the Op was to stock with smaller Mbuna and keep 1M/3F of each species, they could house at least 3 types in there IMO.
We will have to agree to disagree.
 
Again, I realise that.
If the Op was to stock with smaller Mbuna and keep 1M/3F of each species, they could house at least 3 types in there IMO.
We will have to agree to disagree.


now if i were to go with the 55 gal corner. and stock it with smaller mbuna and keeep the 1m/3f
and spicese would u recomend? i want alot of color.
thanks for the help
 
Yellow labs (Labidochromis caruleus)
Rusty Cichlid (Iodotropheus sprengerae)
Cynotilapia afra
Metriaclima estherae (The "Orange blotch" variety are really nice)

Hope that helps.
 
Yellow labs (Labidochromis caruleus)
Rusty Cichlid (Iodotropheus sprengerae)
Cynotilapia afra
Metriaclima estherae (The "Orange blotch" variety are really nice)

Hope that helps.


thanks very much for the help.
 
Again, I realise that.
If the Op was to stock with smaller Mbuna and keep 1M/3F of each species, they could house at least 3 types in there IMO.
We will have to agree to disagree.


It's not just simply agreeing to disagree, this isn't a matter of differing opinions. You are incorrect and giving people false information that will only result in problems down the road. Sure he will be fine for a month or so stocking a 55G corner with 3 species of mbuna, but once they grow up he will have a whole lot of issues. You aren't realizing that the foot print of a 55G is actually smaller than that of a 30g. You keep saying you do realize what I am saying, but you obviously do not. The 55g corner is only 55g because of how tall it is, that space making it tall will be useless for these fish.

I'm not surprised there is so much false information spreading in this hobby for new comers now after seeing some of the posts that are "giving advice".
 
Opinions and correct/incorrect info are two completely different things.
If you feel I am wrong, that is your opinion and I'm not prepared to get into a slanging match with you.

To the OP - What are your tank dimensions?
 
Opinions and correct/incorrect info are two completely different things.
If you feel I am wrong, that is your opinion and I'm not prepared to get into a slanging match with you.

To the OP - What are your tank dimensions?


it is pretty much 22" wide 22" tall" and 22" long
but in the frount there is a /_/ (the first "/" has to face the other way) shape
 
Have you got a pic because I'm not sure what you mean?


i dont have one lol would it be easer if i just made it a live breader tank? i have never done a cichled tank and if i dont have the right tank for it, its just gannna make it harder as a new cichled owner, am i right?

and if african cichlids arent right, what about like other cichleds?? the main thing i want is COLOR
 
If you are after colour, then why not go for a comunity tank with a pair of South American Cichlids.
You could have a pair of the following:

Bolivian Rams
Keyhole Cichlids
Apistogramma sp.

Then you could add shoaling fish like:

Glowlight Tetra
Harlequin Rasbora
Black/Red Phantom Tetra
Lemon Tetra
Cherry Barb
Pentazona Barb
 

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